bulldogboy

Did fire trucks use a different system?All the B85's seem to be gassers.

Mack fire truck designations usually had to do with the pump size; e.g. B85s and C85s had 750 GPM pumps, B95s and C95s had 1,000 GPM pumps,

and B & C 125s had 1,250 GPM pumps. These models were usually gassers but later were available with diesel engines.

"The B-52s" were also a rock group; "Love Shack", etc.

bulldogboy

Bulldogboy I am certainly aware of other tandem B fire apparatus. The Museum informed me that 1144 and 1161 were the only SW fire apparatus produced by the factory. I'd be curious to know if they are wrong or if the other rigs were built on a B chassis by a third party.

I thought that maybe the other trucks had bodies built by someone else but I wondered why Harvey Eckart would use a Mack/non-Mack on the cover of his book.

Mack certainly knows better than me how many trucks they built. It would be great if Millwood could get this truck back some day. I always like when a fire

department maintains one (or more) of their old Mack fire trucks.

bulldogboy

72U685ST:

Thanks for the update, please keep us updated on the Aerialscope's future.

bulldogboy

General Ike:

I've seen pictures of that Millwood Mack before; that's an impressive truck. On the cover of Harvey Eckart's book, "Mack Model B Fire Trucks" there is a picture of a tandem axle "B"

model pumper built for the Pratt & Whitney Aircraft plant in Florida. On page 115 of the same book there is a photo of a semi-cab, tandem axle "B" model pumper built for McCandless

Township, PA. Marsh Harbour Fire Brigade in the Bahamas has a 1958 tandem axle "B" model pumper. There is a photo of it on Marsh Harbour's website; the Mack is still

lettered for the Maidstone Fire Department (?). Good luck with your endeavors in obtaining this truck.

bulldogboy

Bigdog:

Nashua Motor Express; still in business and still running "R" and "U" model tractors. I think that their newest tractor is a "CH".

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72U685ST:

I see that Millbury put its new Pierce tower into service. Did Charlton buy your Aerialscope?

bulldogboy

Nope,but it did see a Nashua one yesterday and thought about you .

Bigdog:

Is that like in Nashua Corporation or something else from Nashua, NH? Nashua Corporation ran Macks years ago.

bulldogboy

Interesting photos of the Signal gas stations; Signal Oil owned Mack at one time. Those photos would have looked better with a few vintage Mack fire apparatus

in them.

bulldogboy

Loadstar:

Looking at the photo of the interior of your "L" cab brings back memories of operating the "L" models in my fire department back in the early '70s.

I remember that the seats were covered in red upholstery just like yours. As fxfymn says, the seats take a beating, especially an open or semi cab

model.

One contact would be: Mike's Custom Kanvas, 468 River Road, Weare, NH 03281, e-mail: MikesCustomKanvas@yahoo.com He has done work for

fire departments in New Hampshire reupholstering seats, making hose bed covers, etc.

Have you seen the website: www.firenews.org? He has a section called "Department Listings" that shows many past and present apparatus throughout

New England. He does not have a photo of Kittery's former Engine 1; maybe you could e-mail John one of your photos. That's a nice looking truck, good

luck with it.

bulldogboy

Like Budweiser, Hallamore has a Clydesdale hitch and wagon that travels to parades, shows, etc. I saw them on display at the Eastern States' Exposition in

West Springfield, MA. Both Hallamore and Budweiser teams were on display and appeared in the daily parades. Hallamore also had a restored Mack "FJ"

tractor on display.

bulldogboy

As part of the deal for Volvo to buy Mack, Volvo had to divest itself of one of the LCFs, either the Autocar model or the Mack "MR". Volvo kept the

Mack and sold the Autocar to Workhorse who kept the LCF in production. Haven't seen too many of them but the "MR" rules the segment.

bulldogboy

While we are discussing problems, how long do I have to enter a reply to a topic? Twice I have tried to enter a response to a topic that was a month or

more old and the response would not enter. Do I have to start a new thread to continue a discussion? Thanks.

bulldogboy

Looks like Harlan County is cornering the market on "CF" fire engines. That's good; like to see them still in service. I passed through Bristol, VA/TN on I-81 last

year; I didn't realize how close I was to Harlan County. Oh, well, maybe next time I'm down that way (would love to go to NASCAR at Bristol).

bulldogboy

OK, sweet, thanks guys!!! Maybe I'll have to go all through the sate of Mass now and find it. Looks like Im going to have to get the bicycle out.

Vinny:

You don't have to ride your bicycle all through Massachusetts. Ashland is about 20-25 miles southwest of Boston (if that truck is in Ashland). Best way is to enter next

year's Boston Marathon; it starts in Hopkinton then travels through Ashland to Boston. If you can't run all 26 miles then detour in Ashland to find that "U" model.

bulldogboy

Yes, blue plates are used on municipal vehicles in Massachusetts. It probably belongs to the Ashland, MA Highway Department.

bulldogboy

Yes, NYC is great this time of year; all the Christmas decorations. I liked Rockefeller Center and all the stores decorated with lights. Times Square is a

great place to visit.

bulldogboy

One thing that I have learned on these forums is that everyone likes the Mack Superliner. Last week I went to the local convenience store to make my

weekly contribution to the state lottery commission. The only parking spot was next to the lone diesel pump but I figured, "What the heck, no one will

use this pump in the near future". So I went in to get my losing ticket and a cup of coffee and when I came out there was a Superliner log truck backing

up to the diesel pump. Needless to say, I hurried to move my pickup to give him all the room he needed. Glad to see a nice old Mack still working.

I see Yarmouth Lumber trucks running I-95 and I-495 around Boston all the time. Will have to keep an eye out for the "Top Dog". By the way, the

Yarmouth, ME Fire Department still owns a 1948 Mack Type 45 pumper.

bulldogboy

Paul and 84superdog:

Those photos of the C-130s remind me of the trip I took to Alaska and back in a C-130. Great cargo haulers; passenger comfort, not so much.

Your story of the C-121s flying around Cape Cod reminds me of when I was a kid, I lived near Grenier AFB, NH. We would watch the C-119s flying

in formation into and out of the base. I never saw any in-flight emergencies but I'm sure there more than a few in those days (mid 1950s).

bulldogboy

Pumper 316 looks great; nice job on the rebuild. It should last for quite a few years more then settle into retirement as a parade piece. Looks like the

body was replaced at one time; it appears to be a Ranger body. That's not unusual, most 1970s fire truck bodies rusted away and had to be replaced.

It was not a Mack problem, it happened to all the steel bodied trucks.

bulldogboy

1. A USAF EC-121 Super Constellation. I flew on a Rhode Island Air National Guard C-121 Super Constellation (the passenger version) to Ramey Air Force

Base in Puerto Rico.

2. That railcar based gun is awesome. Never saw one that big before.

3. Never heard about that German sub found off of Nantucket. Must have been out of town that day.

bulldogboy

Vladislav:

I see SGT trucks running through New England all the time. Now I know what the letters stand for. Who put the nonstandard headlights on your Mack?

BTW, those pictures remind me that winter is coming to NE soon, brrrrr!

bulldogboy

Pawel:

I was in Sint Maarten earlier this year. I was surprised at the number of Macks that I saw there. Apparently, St. Maarten is where Mack trucks

go on vacation. I stopped by the fire station; unfortunately no Macks, mostly Fords and E-Ones.

bulldogboy

Don't forget two of the most famous "F" models; the FDNY Superpumper and Tender tractors.

bulldogboy

When you think about the old horse drawn wagons, most of them were completely open vehicles. Likewise, early automobiles and trucks weren't

much more than an open wagon with a gasoline engine. Like their civilian brethern, early fire trucks were open to the elements but unlike civilian

vehicles fire trucks, for the most part, stayed with the open cab design. Mack built the first completely enclosed cab in 1935 for Charlotte, NC.

Seagrave later built similar models for Detroit but until the 1970s the enclosed cab did not catch on with the fire service. Like fxfymn says, the fire

service does not like to rush into any changes. There were all kinds of reasons why an open cab was needed and I guess at the time they made sense

to those involved.

When I joined the fire department we had coupe style "B" model engines. The driver and officer rode in the cab away from the elements but the firefighters

rode the rear step. We had a large district and there were many long runs on the back step in the rain, snow, wind, cold, etc. Probably was a good idea for

the driver to be out of the elements. Anyway, it was when I was a lot younger and I would not trade those memories for anything.

bulldogboy

REO built the Mack Jr. models. Did Mack supply the engines or did these models have REO engines? Just wondering.

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