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A former USAF refueler; most were built on Mack or Dodge chassis. Many found a second life as fire department water tankers after their military careers were over.

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Nashua, NH Public Works Department operates this 2012 Ford F-650 with a V-10 engine converted to CNG.

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Passed a Pitt-Ohio Ford F-750 last month in Wilkes-Barre, PA while I was on my way to Mohegan Sun to make a donation.

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Joe:

How's everything at Yocum Creek F.D.? The Mack still running okay?

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1958 or 59 Ford C model in a picture from 1964. Also, another truck mounted backhoe. I can't say for sure, but looks like another International by the look of the cab. It has a different fender design compared to the one previously posted in the excavator thread.

Jim

Merrimack Concrete Products; brings back memories; their plant was on Route 3 in the Thornton's Ferry section of Merrimack. I knew of two of those IHs used as fire trucks in southern N.H. Londonderry's was a 1957, only had one

headlight on each side. Another was a 1958 fire alarm truck, it had dual headlights.

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BOB DINGSDALE:

Thanks for the info about the bulldog and different chrome strips on the "L" models. The "L" models I worked on were all pre-1950 so, other than the bumper, I didn't realize that

there were other cosmetic changes made in later years.

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SMFire History:

I believe that the "L" model in the old station photos is older than 1952. The telltale item is the front bumper, it is smaller than the one on your '52. "L"s had the smaller bumper until 1949 or thereabouts.

Nice old pictures, they remind me of my department when I started my career.

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On page 79 of Harvey Eckart's book, "Mack Fire Apparatus, A Pictorial History", there is a photo of Engine 23, a 1954 Mack "LT" 1000 GPM pumper delivered to Glendale, CA.

The photo is black and white but it is obviously not red; either yellow or white. It is a semi-cab which means it has doors but no roof. An open cab has no doors and no roof; real

old time firefighting! Harvey's books are a must for anyone interested in all types of Mack fire apparatus.

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cummins6900:

I think that we all want every Mack saved (especially fire trucks) but realistically that is not possible. The fact that some Lynnfield parts will help keep other Macks running is great.

The department that I worked for had a lot of "L", "B", and "CF" trucks but I think that some of them were scrapped; a couple are still around. BTW, what happened to the other Aerialscope?

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The Aruba Fire Department (Brandweer Aruba) used to have three or four "MS" /E-One pumpers, an "MS" model rescue, and an "MC"/E-One pumper tanker. When I was there I only saw the

rescue truck at the airport station. I stopped by the other two stations, Tanque Flippi and San Nicolas, but neither of them had any Macks. Couldn't get anywhere near the airport station.

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Green Dash:

On behalf of all of us on BMT, please pat yourself on the back.

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The lettering on the wagon says "St. Louis"; there is also a team stationed at the AB brewery in Merrimack, NH. Their wagon is lettered for Merrimack, NH; they also cover the Northeast U.S. The Clydesdale Village in

Merrimack is a nice place to take the kids. Also, free samples at the brewery for the adults.

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Wow, all of this information makes my head spin. Mack must have had a VP in charge of nothing else but thinking up letters and numbers to designate all its various models.

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Brian:

I'll try to give you a quick explanation as I understand it but I'm sure that the others on these forums who are much more knowledgeable about fire apparatus will jump in. Mack started with two models,

a "Junior" series and a "Senior" series. "Juniors" were medium duty trucks and "Seniors" were heavy duty. Later the "AB" replaced the "Junior" and the "AC" replaced the "Senior" series. I'm not sure why

Mack used the various letters to designate their models. Next came the early "B" series in the 1930s, then the medium duty "E" and heavy duty "L" models. Within each series there were many models, some

were available as conventional or traffic type chassis. Fire apparatus was usually designated according to the motors used and pump size. A "Type 45" fire engine was a smaller "E" series with a 500 GPM

pump, a "Type 75" had a 750 GPM pump and so on. Later "L-85", "B-85" and "C"-85" had 750 GPM pumps, "L-95", "B-95", and "C-95" had 1000 GPM pumps. The "C" model was Mack's first cab forward

design in the 1950s later replaced by the more modern "CF" series in the late 1960s. The Mack "Junior" line of the 1930s (not to be confused with the earlier "Junior" series) was not built by Mack, they were

built by REO under license from Mack. This model gave Mack a truck in the light duty category.

I know that this is probably too simple of an explanation but, like I said, others here will add a lot more information. If you can, pick up a copy of one, or both, of the Mack fire apparatus books written by Harvey

Eckart. Read those and all will be revealed.

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MADDOG93:

Is that photo on the right front of the engine taken when it was in Alexandria, NH? Looks like the photo that I have seen.

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KW and Peterbilt build four door chassis for emergency service use. Too bad Mack didn't offer a four door "Granite"; that would make an awesome fire engine platform.

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I always like a photo of a "B" model pumper parked on the apron. Brings back a lot of memories of my early career.

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Was at 9k last fall.....but he said cash talks.....although it's never said anything to me?

Mine says "bye".

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I remember in New Hampshire they would issue new plates every year in reverse colors. One year would be a white background with green letters and numbers, the following year the plates

would be a green background with white letters and numbers. I don't think that you had to turn the old plates in. The motto on the plates at the time was "Scenic" at the top with "New

Hampshire" on the bottom. One year the motto was changed to "Photoscenic" but people complained that it was promoting the photography business so it went back to "Scenic".

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MADDOG93:

I had heard about a guy that sold used Mack fire apparatus to small towns in New Hampshire back in the '70s and '80s but I can't remember his name. Supposedly, most of them came from Long Island. There were

lots of "L", "B", and "C" model engines and ladders parked in small NH volunteer stations. It was a great time to be a Mack fire apparatus buff. I know that Claremont, NH at one time ran an "L", "C", and "CF" engine.

I think that all of Claremont's engines were bought new. Interesting story about Alexandria's red and ,almost, white Macks.

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mike69mackman:

Glad that you made it to Lynn okay. Arriving at 5:30 A.M. helped to avoid the rush hour traffic. Lynn is just a hard place to get to no matter which way you go. I once worked for a company that is

headquartered in Lynn; I only went there several times but I would always get lost and drive around in circles until I found the street that I was looking for. The last time I drove a pickup with a GPS

and it still sent me down a dead end street. Hope that you made it back out okay.

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128 is always a fuster cluck, if you hit it before 6am and from 11am to 2pm it is not bad after 7pm is usually fine. That was at 5pm so I had a short 65mph run to rt2 then it stalled out all the way to the 93 interchange and still slow up to Peabody.

Very true, then throw in an accident, fender bender, just someone parked in the breakdown lane, snowstorm, construction (never ending) and then all bets are off!

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Take I-95 (SR 128 for us oldtimers) north from I-90 to Exit 44 towards Lynn. After the exit there is a famous (infamous?) Massachusetts rotary. Follow the signs to Rte 129 towards Lynn. Follow 129 straight into downtown

Lynn. This is a two lane city street with lots of traffic, traffic signals, etc. I don't know where Garelick's plant is; do you have an address? Good luck; Boston area traffic is wonderful any time of the day or night.

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Last Sunday, August 11, 2013, the fire station in Albany, VT burned with the loss of five trucks. An Albany volunteer firefighter has been arrested and charged with arson. Albany is a

small town in the Northeast Kingdom. One engine was destroyed, a 1970s IH, I think. Heavily damaged and probably totaled are a 1977 Hahn engine, a Peterbilt tanker, a step van,

and a brush truck. Albany had a Mack tanker, I thought that they still had it, but I guess it had been replaced by the Peterbilt. For now, the Corinth, VT Fire Department has lent them

a Ford "C" model pumper and Newport Center, VT has given them a GMC mini-pumper.

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That is why going to shows and joining antique truck groups is so helpful. You are right, all the answers aren't in the books. (Like knowing exactly what happened to Newton's open cab CF)

I always thought Newton had some of the cleanest, best looking Macks in the Boston area.

Up there with Lynnfield! Right, Paul? Any FD with an "N" model Mack has to be okay in my book.

On the other hand, the hard scrabble mill cities of Lowell and Lynn, MA ran their "C" and "CF" fire trucks hard. They ran from factory conflagrations to tenement fires back to factory conflagrations back to tenement ...,

well, you get the picture. Those Macks were working trucks, did a great job, and retired as battle weary veterans.

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