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So who is who in the picture?

I use to not like there green also but now that I see it everyday its starting to look nice.

It's better than all the white we see from the big fleets.

Thanks for the heads up. What is the status on the speed limit bill in Illinois? I keep hearing about the split speed limit going away same as Ohio.

Honestly I don't really know, I think they are gonna do away with the split speed limit. I heard in Ohio they are gonna raise the speed limit to 70 but keep trucks at 65, but I think that was just rumor there.

If you head our way this summer, watch your speed.

IF YOU ARE DRIVING TO DECATUR, PLEASE WATCH YOUR SPEED LIMIT!!! See below:

Subject: Illinois to start using Photo Radar in July !

Illinois will begin using photo radar in freeway work zones in July.

One mile per hour over the speed limit and the machine will get you a

nice $375.00 ticket in the mail. Beginning July 1st, the State of

Illinois will begin using the speed cameras in areas designated as "Work

Zones" on major freeways. Anyone caught by these devices will be mailed

a $375.00 ticket for the FIRST offense. The SECOND offense will cost$1000.00 and comes with a 90-Day suspension. Drivers will also receive demerit points against their license, which allow insurance companies to raise Insurance rates.

This is the harshest penalty structure ever set for a governmental unit

involving PHOTO speed enforcement. The State already has two camera

vans on line issuing tickets 24/7 in work zones with speed limits

lowered to 45 MPH. Photos of both the Driver's face and License plate

are taken. Pass this on!!!

For more info: http://www.dot.state.il.us/press/r033005.html

A lawyer and a truck driver are sitting next to each other on a long flight.

The lawyer is thinking that truck driver are so dumb that he could put one over on them easily...so the lawyer asks the truck driver if he would like to play a fun game.

The truck driver is tired and just wants to take a nap, so he politely declines and tries to catch a few winks. The lawyer persists, and says that the game is a lot of fun. "I ask you a question, and if you don't know the answer, you pay me only $5.; you ask me one, and if I don't know the answer, I will pay you $500." he says.

This catches the truck driver's attention and to keep the lawyer quiet, he agrees to play the game.

The lawyer asks the first question. "What's the distance from the Earth to the moon?"

The truck driver doesn't say a word, reaches in his pocket pulls out a five-dollar bill, and hands it to the lawyer.

Now, it's the truck driver's turn. He asks the lawyer, "What goes up a hill with three legs, and comes down with four?"

The lawyer uses his laptop and searches all references he could find on the net. He sends e-mails to all the smart friends he knows, all to no avail.

After one hour of searching he finally gives up. He wakes up the truck driver and hands him $500. The truck driver pockets the $500. and goes right back to sleep.

The lawyer is going nuts not knowing the answer. He wakes the truck driver up and asks, "Well, so what goes up a hill with three legs and comes down with four?"

The truck driver reaches in his pocket, hands the lawyer $5. and goes back to sleep.

Don't mess with us tuck drivers!!

Remember, out of each graduating class of lawyers, 50% graduated at the top and the other 50% at the bottom of the class.

CNN-Communist News Network. The only news I watch is Fox, all the rest is left wing liberal nut jobs!

part of our problem is too much news. i dont know if we should know everything the second it happens,

Another good point, I don't watch the news anymore, it's all about Obama this, economy that. The same old bullcrap!

i have enough ammo until CNN gets to my house.

CNN-Communist News Network. The only news I watch is Fox, all the rest is left wing liberal nut jobs!

That's why they want to take our guns away.

EXACTLY!!!!!

amen to that. you would think we could ban together once to fix our screwed up govt that our "leaders" have created.

People are too busy worrying about others lives to care about what is going on to his country!

HOOVER, TRUMAN, AND IKE!

What did Hoover, Truman, and Eisenhower have in common? (Deported illegals!)

Here is something that should be of great interest for you to pass around..

Back during The Great Depression, President Herbert Hoover ordered the deportation of ALL illegal immigrants in order to make jobs available to American citizens that desperately needed work...

Harry Truman deported over two million Illegal's after WWII to create jobs for returning veterans.

And then again in 1954, President Dwight Eisenhower deported 13 million Mexican Nationals! The program was called 'Operation Wetback'. It was done so WWII and Korean Veterans would have a better chance at jobs. It took 2 Years, but they deported them!

Now...if they could deport the illegal's back then - they could sure do it today?

lf you have doubts about the veracity of this information, enter OperationWetback into your favorite search engine and confirm it for yourself.

Reminder: Don't forget to pay your taxes...12 million Illegal Immigrants are depending on you.

This is very very funny!

Do yourself a favor and get a degree, even if its just a 2 year associates. Its been 10 years since I graduated high school and I don't have a degree. I went to a 2 year school for a total of about 5 years and bombed out. I did nothing but screw up and fail and then retake the classes. The sad part is I put myself in a serious hole and now I have to transfer out of that school to another that offers the same course. 10 years later and I still have nothing but a high school diploma. And it has prevented me from getting a few jobs I wanted simply because the prerequisite was a degree. Sure you can get a sweet money making job without a college degree but it never hurts to have that piece of paper. One day you might find yourself unable to drive or out of a job and then what? At least with the degree your job options are much greater. Heck you might find that after a few years on the road that you hate it and want to persue something else.

The worst part is I am no dummy. I went to college for electrical engineering and did very good in all of my technology classes (well i did fail one but that was due to not handing in labs). I can still sit down to this day and work on electronic projects and computer projects. Hell right now I am building a small computer cluster (mini super computer using MPI) using a bunch of older motherboards I got from a friend. Its not easy to but I have been diligently working on getting it working for 5 days now. I never learned how to do it in school but that was never an excuse for me not to learn something new. I know my shit but without that stupid piece of paper you could be Einstein and still no one will hire you. Its a bad situation to be in so don't make my mistake. Go to school, don't screw around and get a degree!

Maybe you could drive a dump/mixer/etc during the construction season and then go to school during the off season. The two will overlap but you might be able to work something out with your boss. You can make money and get a degree. Oh and go to a community college first, no sense in spending big bucks per credit only to realize you dont like college. If you like your major in community college you can transfer the credits to a real university and then persue a batchelors or even a masters. No sence in spending a grand a credit for stupid english and social science classes. Even the basic math and science classes can be taken in community college for cheap.

I am going to the a community college, gonna do all my classes online and whatever I get back from pell I'll use to get my CDL!

Nice screen name. Rob is a Ma-power fan and I am one in hiding

Mopar's are JUNK!

they only taught the "three r's" when I was in school.

I learned them in elementary school! Then everything changed with the "no child left behind" crap! The work got way to easy and those who were ahead had to wait on everyone else or the ones who were doing mediocre work who were failing got passed by the teacher. Dumbing down America and with Barry Hussein in office it'll only get worse! Back then y'all had no child left behind act, y'alls problem was that y'all just didn't give a damn with the GTO's, Chevelle's, Trans Am's, weed, lsd, acid, and all that other good stuff of the 70's. Sorry I couldn't help myself with that one.

Damn, it sounds like you are qualified to be an office secretary. Are you certain you will have time to operate machinery if your knowledge base is solely concentrated on administrative functions?

The office administration is a large part of any business operation, (large, or small) but those without the drive to perform the work, then track the performance will not acheive success they long for, and are blinded by. Do you realize that 50% of small business startups fail within the first three years? Only about 12% of new business startup actually survive five years. Any business that starts on bank loans and high administrative costs is almost doomed at the start as the law of averages does not play favorites.

I did not learn much in school as I quit when 16. I do know that I've raised my two wonderful kids to adulthood without grandkids, and put my wife, and both of those kids through college without debt or outside help on the limited knowlege that I do have.

Personally I think a college degree is what is needed in this timeframe to make up for the lack of work ethic displayed by the younger generation that survives on handouts, or sponsorship. Do I sound like a prick? Here is an example: I terminated a decent bodyman a couple of months ago for taking a personal telephone call as I was counciling him on his lack of attention to detail. I can be an intolerable asshole when my business interests are not looked after, or jeopardized. Otherwise, a reasonably nice guy.

I bring this up because there is a good side to doing business, and a not so good side. If you are not willing to strike an equal balance between the two, and know when to apply them, there is very little chance of long term success.

You have been offered some very good advice from persons that have lived the dream and the choice is yours to be correct. At 18 years of age, looking at getting married with possibly starting your own family is not the best time to gamble on your immediate future together. At your age you do not have the world by the "short hairs" and will need to gain real world experience before possibly losing control of what you may, or may not have, at this point. It sure is demoralizing to have to start over, and several are trying to help you along; Get some real world experience by not jumping into your dream right out of the gate. Find employment with a company and as part time experience, haul grain and such during the harvest and planting seasons. Some of the best experience out there is REAL work!

Rob

I've called several places and they want me to be either 21 or have experience. I found a grain company in Carlinville but I didn't have a CDL at that time. Maybe if I get my CDL by harvest I can haul grain and get my certificates at the same time since I can do those online. I just hope the economy hasn't hurt the grain hauling business any.

not at all, that's just what I learned in school.

Well I learned a lot more than e=mc squared and i before e except after c. I learned how to do electronic calculator, filing, transcription, correspondence, memos, mailable letters, and all that wonderful business related stuff. At least I paid attention in school unlike some people I know! No I'm not referring to any of you!

gee...and I thought I knew it all because I learned " i before e except after c", and e=mc squared.

Not sure how to take that comment but it'll be classified as a smart ass comment.

Like I said, though...make sure the truck you buy is the truck you want to drive. Only way to know that for sure is to drive a few out in the real world and compare spec's so you can narrow your search down to what will work for you. The only thing I compromised on was the wheelbase of the truck...it had the engine, transmission, rear gears, tire size, year, make, and model that I had figured I wanted based on what I liked/disliked about trucks I had previously driven....and it was a rare low-mileage find (it was an '01 with 260K miles) in pretty good shape overall....so that was one compromise I was willing to make.

If you've never actually hauled anything on the road in a a truck, you are either allowing someone else to tell you what you want, or you are just guessing at what you think would work. If you are going to allow someone else to spec' your truck, you may as well let them pay for it too so you can figure out if you are happy with their specs before you are stuck with a payment.

In my search, I had more than one salesman ask me if I "really needed" that gearing...or that transmission...or that engine...or that make/model/year...or that tire size...or that suspension. They were trying to talk me out of finding what I knew I wanted, and talk me into buying what they had on their lot that they were trying to get rid of. You have to know WHAT you want before you can know to ASK for it...and you have to know WHY you want it that way before you can convince the salesman that your specs are non-negotiable.

...and remember, what looks good on paper doesn't always work out in real life. It doesn't matter if it's an architect designing an elaborate building, a financial genius crunching numbers, or a truck buyer spec'ing a truck.

I know you are itching to be your own boss, but I would HIGHLY recommend spending at least a couple years behind the wheel of someone ELSE'S truck to gain the real-world knowledge that only comes through experience.

I will admit I'm hard headed and I got an idea of what I want as far as spec goes, I want at least 500 horses with a 13spd and 3.55 rears. I can live with a flat top or mid roof sleeper. I really don't need the room of a condo sleeper at all because I don't plan on carrying much just clothes, laptop, food and tools but the tools will go under the bed so that is no big deal along with other maintenance stuff. I gave this a lot of thought and have been for the past oh 4 years or so.

Unfortunately, "book smart" only gets you so far. If you want to own your own truck, you are either going to have to know how to work on it yourself or pay someone else to work on it for you. Have you taken a class for that? When you are starting out, the only "human resources" you will be managing will be you and...ummm....you. Can you tolerate working for yourself? I can honestly say that I'm the worst boss I've ever worked for. Heck, I made myself drive a truck with no AC all last summer because fuel was too danged expensive...having AC would have only encouraged idling on those hot summer days while waiting to get loaded or unloaded instead of shutting the truck off, getting my lawn chair, and finding a spot under a shade tree. Besides, there were much more pressing issues during that first year, and I wanted to make sure I could pay for anything that came up. Here it is a year later...the AC STILL isn't fixed....and it's heating up yet again. Fuel is SLIGHTLY cheaper...for now...but my chances of getting the boss man to fix the AC are still not looking very good. He pays me on salary...said it was easier for him to have the bank auto-pay a set amount each week rather than figuring out a percentage of the work I did. The bad part about that is that the boss man knows exactly what my personal bills are and set my salary only slightly above that. Most weeks, I don't even average $10/hour when you factor in that he expects me to maintain and repair the truck on top of just driving the derned thing.

When sitting behind the wheel of a truck, all of that business software you know how to use won't mean much at all. I've been using Works (free with most of the computer's I've ever bought...excel and word cost money) to set up a simple spreadsheet to track my loads and pay on those loads, miles, and fuel usage. Beyond that and some sort of mapping software (I use DeLorme Street Atlas USA) to help locate where it is you are heading and pick the most efficient route to get there, you really don't even need a computer. You could keep the same info in a notebook (although end-of-month and end-of-quarter tallies would take longer) and a map book to do the same thing....that's how they USED to do it before computers. Still gotta have the map book to make sure the route you WANT to take is actually a truck route though...and it shows where the chicken houses are so you can avoid them if you need to as well...extra fuel burned running extra miles is always cheaper than an overweight fine when you roll across scales you should have known you were going to come across. Sure, it's best to run legal...but that doesn't always happen.

Honestly, most of what I know I learned on the job...not in any classroom. I've been driving one sized vehicle or another since I turned 18. Delivered flowers for many years during summers and when I was home on break from college. Taught people how to ride motorcycles as an MSF instructor for a few years too. Drove wreckers for a while...then got my CDL and drove a dry van for a couple years. Went back to college to finish up my degree (my last semester, I had decided it was more important to go out riding my motorcycle than it was to go to class....oops) and drove a school bus for the semester. Pulled a dry-bulk tank regionally for the OTHER company in this area for a few months until a gig hauling logs came my way. That was fun...LOVED it...probably learned more on that job than I did in all the others combined...in maintaining the trucks, dodging scales, and most importantly DRIVING the truck! When you can take a semi down a 2-track, 1-lane dirt road off into the woods, get turned around, and get out, you can take a truck just about anywhere. Besides that, it sort of had something to do with my Forestry degree I made the mistake of being expendable, though, and one day the boss was pi$$ed and looking to take it out on someone. Truck boss stood up for me, though...told the company owner "Don't ever ask me to hire another driver....finally found a good one and you're making me fire him" and within 6 months, the truck boss had quit. Anyway, started flat bedding....first company didn't last too long before they tried leaving me sitting in Laredo on a weekend I told them when they hired me that I needed to be home. I ride the Toys for Tots Motorcycle Parade in Chicago the first Sunday every December...and my mom postpones the family's Thanksgiving Dinner until the day before the ride when she knows I'll be there. I gave 'em their truck, rented a car, and went home. Started with another flatbed outfit a week later....stuck with them a year until I applied at Beelman. Got hired on in the tank division, and after a year there I knew I had found a good place...started looking for my own truck. It was something I had known I wanted to do for a while...just wanted to find a company to lease onto first so that I knew I'd be treated well and could make decent money. I had been talking to as many O/O's leased to them as I could....finding out as much as possible about how they are paid, how they are treated, etc. so that I'd have a pretty good idea what I would be getting myself into. Almost another year went by before I FINALLY found the truck I ended up with, and I leased back on with them just as I had planned to. Truck had a wet-kit, but since I had been on tank and knew the revenue I'd be making (dumps was an unknown), I decided to have a PTO mounted for the blower and the wet kit removed. I did, however, have the foresight to have a second PTO mounted up on the 6-bolt side of the transmission (easier to do with a Mack than any other transmission) so that I could mount up the hydraulic pump myself if I needed it. Tanks slowed down, and I re-installed the wet kit and got it working. Moved to dumps so I could keep working, and as the ONLY truck in Beelman's fleet that is set up to do both dump AND tank, I've been called upon several times now to cover loads....usually decent paying ones...when they need a load covered. Any trailer they have I am set up to pull...even the RGN's (I put a return line on when I installed my wet kit.)

Most of what you'll need to know you will learn on-the-job. That and a little foresight and a LOT of common sense and you might make it out here. I'm still learning. Heck, a guy could be out here for 50 years and STILL not know everything there is to know about trucking. A college education and $1.25 might buy you a cup of coffee at the truck stop.

I'd suggest getting your feet wet as a company driver first. Sure, it looks fun and exciting, but this job ain't for everyone. I hope you can be successful. Heck, I wish EVERYONE could be successful, but that just isn't reality. If trucking isn't what you are cut out for, would you rather find out as a company driver where you can turn in the keys and walk away to do something else? Or as a truck owner with a banker calling you looking for a payment as the repo man is outside hooking to your rig?

You are young. You are engaged. Now is the time you should be thinking about ensuring for your future family's security...not taking unnecessary financial risks. Get a truck repo'd and then try buying a house...ain't gonna happen. If things had turned out differently with my own g/f and she had moved up here 4 years ago instead of starting school, I doubt I'd be a truck owner today. We're engaged now too...something that happened AFTER I had the truck and was working and making money with it. I'll have had it a year and a half before she gets up here and even thinks about picking a date...and hopefully I'll still have it. Things have gotten EXTREMELY tight....mostly because of all of the maintenance stuff (tires, brakes, etc.) that I knew needed doing but was putting off while it was busy last summer. All that's done now, so HOPEFULLY my accounts will stop declining in balance and start climbing upward again. With any luck, I'll have a little cushion built up again before she gets here.

Don't get me wrong, I don't want you to give up on your dreams....just know what you are getting yourself into BEFORE you jump into it. If you dive off the high dive BEFORE you check the pool to make sure there's any water in it (and HOPEFULLY checking the temperature of that water), you could be heading for disaster....or at least a very rude awakening. If you want to own a truck as more than just a hobby...if you want to make a career out of owning and driving a truck....start out driving someone ELSE'S truck to get an idea on what all is involved. Drive it like it is yours...keep track of fuel, miles, loads, maintenance, etc. If you work on a percentage of gross, it's easy enough to figure what 100% of the gross was and then figure the percentage they pay O/O's (if the company has any). Keep track of EVERYTHING related to that truck....tires...brakes...etc.

It also doesn't hurt to pay attention to how each truck you drive is set up. What make/model is it? What engine is under the hood? What transmission does it have? What rear axle gear ratios are in it? What size tires does it have?

With that information, you can start comparing....comfort....convenience....ergonomics....driveability....can it pull a load up a hill....does it get stuck more than it ought to....reliability issues....etc.

From there, you'll have an idea on what kind of truck you will want to buy....which make/model did you like driving the best? Which engine/transmission/rear gears worked the best for what you intend to do with the truck? For example, if you are going to run mostly light-weight freight OTR, running a lot of highway miles without too many hills, you can go with a higher rear end gear (3.08-3.55) to keep engine RPM's down while cruising on the highway for better fuel mileage....but if you are pulling a lot of 80,000 loads locally or up and down a lot of hills, you may want to run lower rear gears (3.90-4.35). If you are doing strictly local work with a lot of off road, you will want even lower gears than that. Keep in mind tire size affects the way it pulls too. A truck with 11R24.5 tires and 4.17 rear gears like my truck will pull just the same turning the same RPM's at any speed as a truck with LP24.5's or 11R22.5's (same rolling diameter...just a different rim size) and 3.95 rears....which will pull the same turning the same RPM's at any speed as a truck with LP22.5's and 3.73 rear gears.

Basically, you have to make sure the truck you are buying is set up for what you want to do with it....but leave enough options open in case your situation changes you can adapt to keep your truck working and making money for you.

Like I started off saying....there's a LOT you need to learn before buying a truck that you just won't learn in school. You gotta get out here in the real world and experience some of these things to find what YOU like and what YOU don't like. From a driver's perspective, what works for me may not work for you...and a truck set up the way you want it is going to help you out big time. I don't mind driving a truck that pi$$es me off, as long as I'm not the one paying for it....IF I'm treated well by the people who ARE paying for it. If I'm making the payments on a truck, though, I want to be 100% happy with the way it drives and the way it pulls, because let's face it...I'm a real SOB to work for . You won't know how to set it up for yourself, though, until you've actually driven a few and compared your likes & dislikes about each one.

OK...that was a long and rambling response to what I've been reading. Again, I don't want to discourage you from chasing your dreams....just want you to know what you are getting into BEFORE it's too late. Buying my own truck was my goal, and I'm happy I did it. Sure it increased my stress levels...put a bit of a strain on the finances this past winter...but overall it's been a good experience. I hope you have a good experience too when you get around to buying your own truck. You just need to understand that your chances of having a good experience will be greatly increased if you know what you are getting yourself into LONG before you make that purchase, so that you limit the number of "unexpected surprises" that come your way.

I agree I prefer real world experience over sitting in some classroom. I myself like a challenge and I know I can work for myself just fine, so it'll be great. I always wanted to be my own boss and I grew up around trucking all my life so why not combine the two and start my own one fleet operation, I did some office stuff (file log sheets and fuel receipts) I worked in shops washing trucks, did a few PM's on trucks, did some flatbed work, and a little bit of driving (If you count the yard). I had a little bit of experience with about every aspect of trucking except I didn't drive. I'm a very organized person and I keep track of EVERYTHING and I'm very anal about being organized and keeping track of stuff. I'm so organized that I file things by date, name of business, and location which makes figuring out my costs more accurate. Microsoft Office came free on this laptop and I also plan on using QuickBooks business software to keep track of my expenses.

I'm looking instead of getting a degree in management is get the certificates in management and entrepreneur which is 19 credits total instead of 66 credits for the degree. Sure the degree means more but I've already done 4 years worth of business classes including word, excel, resumes/portfolios, business law, correspondence, electronic calculator, filing, and transcription. Those skills are valuable and learned a lot from them which was actually college level work. The management certificate covers Human Relations in the Workplace, Principles of Management, Human Resource Management, Small Business Management, Marketing, and Ethics in the Workplace while the entrepreneur certificate covers Entrepreneur Basics, Entrepreneur: First Year, and Business Plan Basics. Now those are the skills I need and haven't learned yet. What can I say I may be crazy but I'm smart!

You probably don't want to buy a truck right now. Prices are good...a buyers market as a LOT of truckers are losing their trucks....but rates suck, which is WHY those truckers are losing their trucks and WHY there are so many trucks on the market for so little money. Being limited to only intrastate, you'll have that much more difficulty keeping paying freight on your truck and your truck rolling down the road.

Heck, maybe even get a job driving a mixer 'til you turn 21...or possibly check out jobs driving wreckers too. With wreckers, they may start you out in light duty stuff, but if you prove yourself competent and you have a CDL, you can probably get them to start training you into the heavy duty wreckers. At least that way when you are trying to get on with an OTR company and the recruiter asks you if you have any T/T experience, you can ask them if the T/T's you've pulled behind your wrecker count. After all, once you can successfully navigate your way around in a 400" wheel base wrecker, towing a 275" wheel base tractor, hooked to a 53' trailer without tearing anything up, driving the 275" wheelbase tractor pulling the 53' trailer is a piece of cake.

Hmmm good point there!

Don't worry...I no longer give a FF what the Chicago Tribune prints...grandma sent me a clipping about the armadillos being seen in "Franklin County, deep in Southern Illinois." I called my grandma to give her a hard time about it too...and told her Franklin County wasn't "DEEP" in Southern Illinois...that it was barely far enough South to be considered Southern Illinois....sort of a northern border county. It's still over an hours drive north from my house.

I've often wondered how many cities there are that claim to be the "Capitol of Southern Illinois" too...I know Belleville and Carbondale both make the claim. Although still South of 64, Belleville is too far north. Carbondale is a danged college town...during the school year, you have more people from Chicago than anywhere else living there, so how can that be the capitol? Heck, Carbondale ain't even the county seat...that's over in Murphysboro.

I don't know why I get riled up about stoopid crap like that....and I understand why anyone would want to try to claim Southern Illinois as their home....basically anywhere other than Chicago really isn't all that bad....the farther away both geographically and politically, the better.

Amen brother amen!

CDL's restrict 18-20 year olds to intrastate only (can't cross state lines) so basically you'll be forced to stick with a local gig...maybe get your feet wet with some limited road stuff if you can find something running between E. St. Louis and Chicago (without crossing any state lines, of course). On your 21st birthday, you can drive anywhere your little heart desires...so long as your cab card is apportioned for the state your heart desires to run in

That is the joys of living in near East St. Louis actually Illinois, is less deadhead as far as picking up a load to head out is concerned and flatbed freight is the main thing around here besides dry van. At least I have that to my advantage.

Oh yeah...I keep forgetting to mention....South Roxana, IL is NOT "Southern Illinois". Heck, it's NORTH of St. Louis! If I drive north for 2 hours, I'm STILL not far enough north to reach South Roxana.

North of I64 is Central Illinois. There. I said it.

Hmmm oh hell I won't argue with ya driver!

That's exactly right. I was just re-reading this post after I talked to Bill. I was watching "Ice Road Truckers" last Sunday and complaining about all the commercials. Jo said "why don't you just get the DVD?". I said "can't afford it". She said "you can afford $30 can't you?". Well, I probably could afford $30, but since it comes on TV and I can watch it for free (at least as long as I pay the Directv bill) i'm not gonna buy the DVD, and complaining about the commercials just seems stupid now. Bill's got real problems, and i'm gonna whine about commercials?

Your a good man! I'm proud of ya, I thought I had a big heart but yours is much bigger than mine!