farmer52

On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 7:30 AM, HeavyGunner said:

Are they Kawasaki powered like the mowers and such?

On ‎2‎/‎2‎/‎2018 at 7:58 AM, Hayseed said:

Fairly certain The diesel One is Yanmar powered. & (I think) they use Kohler in some of the Petrol Ones..

I have a John Deere Mower & It's Briggs & Shitten Powered..

Ref. Deere - I think all the Diesels are Yanmar.  The gassers could be one of several OEs (Kaw, B&S, Kohler).  Best to look at the specs for the specific model to determine the engine OE.  I think the CVT transmissions are from Japan.  Deere uses a lot of Japan made components in their UTV and L&G products but the machines are assembled in USA.

P.S. Something about plain Norma - me thinks she may be "hot" in bed....sorry not politically correct.

28 minutes ago, Red Horse said:

Thx-Never knew Textron was into this market.  Just out of curiosity, do you know who builds the Deere line of ATV's///

Deere builds their own UTVs.

19 hours ago, Red Horse said:

 wonder who rebrands this for Cat?  Polaris?   wonder why the ol' boy didn't ask about the power train?  Hopefully it will live longer than the Cat "truck"

Textron

https://www.equipmentworld.com/cat-to-enter-utv-market-through-partnership-with-textron/

Paul,

Happy Birthday and many more.  Hope you had an enjoyable day.

David,

Happy Birthday and many more.  Hope you had a great day.

Those dates are correct.

Rick,

Happy Birthday and many more.  Enjoy your day!

Herby,

Happy Birthday and many more.  Enjoy your day and stay inside where it is warm.  Have dad and Doug keep the fire going and handle any road calls!

Mike,

Happy Birthday and many more.  Enjoy your day!

Last I knew, Mack oil is supplied by Mobil (Delvac).  I don't think they changed suppliers.  Chevron and Shell have been trying to get Mack's business for many years but have not succeeded (to my knowledge).  But remember, just because an oil is supplied by a particular company does not mean it is the same oil.  The engine OE can specify a different formulation compared to "off the shelf" brands.  Important things to note...correct viscosity grade and API credentials.

22 hours ago, other dog said:

Thank you everyone for the kind words.

Tom,

Good knowing you are okay.  Always enjoy seeing your "road trip" pics (wish there were some Winfall wimmin here in central PA).  BTW, the JD4420 combine is worth some money if it is in good condition.

On a side note to Yardo...the Nunnery in Canton, OH closed...a sad day for tutors.  How are we to maintain our certification?

Swishy,

One for each hand and one for the mouth.  Talk about lucky!  But difficult to motorboat.  Just sayin'

OD is probably on a secret mission.

Yardo....Randy,

Happy Birthday and many more.  Enjoy your day!

Heard back from Microsoft...there was an issue on their end.  Surprise surprise!  Anyway they were aware of it and things are back to "normal" this morning (at least for the time being).

As for MS email... they still have Hotmail and now Outlook programs.

Anyone here using MS Outlook email?  Today I tried opening some messages and when I do, only the title shows and rest of the screen is blank.  I tried opening it with another computer/OS and same thing.  I tried forwarding a message but that does not work either.  Now that Barry booted the BMT hacker, perhaps the hacker is screwing with MS.  I sent a note to Microsoft but they will use my Outlook email address so I will never see the reply.

Ron,

Congrats on making the cover of DC and nice article about your "baby Mack".  Are you charging for autographs?

6 hours ago, kamp_dogg said:

A lot of people still reference Amoco Premier diesel around here, but that hasn't been available since early 2000's. It was a very good fuel and they did a great job marketing it.

Amoco was bought by BP.  BP Supreme (Amoco Premier) Diesel fuel "was" a very good straight run Diesel fuel.  It was actually closer to a #1 but did meet the #2 specs.  It had high natural cetane and was very stable.  We used it for baseline testing "back in the day".  But as you mention, I doubt it is available anymore considering the cost of refining, etc.

As for bio...the only thing good about bio is it "helps the farmers" - I think.  Both ethanol and bio have "issues" when it comes to operability and emissions.  Best to use corn, beans, etc. as a food source.  Difficult to get non-bio Diesel most places.

9 hours ago, Hobert62 said:

My dad used howes for years.   He noticed 1-2 tenths increase in mpg when using it.    He has a signature 600 cummins and the last while(could be a year or two) has been getting a black snotty gunk in his fuel filters/screens.   Howes wouldn't do anything to it.     He tried hotshot secret and in a few fill ups the gunk is gone.   He gets his fuel at the same 2 or 3 spots all the time.       

The black slime is "bugs" or bacteria growth.  Typical fuel additives do not address bugs.  You need a fuel biocide to kill the bugs.  Bugs grow at the interface between the fuel and water (water is on the bottom of the tank).  Be sure to drain the water from the bottom of the tank occasionally to prevent bacteria growth.

9 hours ago, BillyT said:

Freightrain does power service still have the purple color? It's been decades since I've used it! FWD, I wasn't recommending gasoline as an additive,just saying I heard some guys use it! I sure wouldn't use it! My dad used to put atf in an engine with sticking lifters (one qt)  seemed to work, probably the high detergency !

All fuel additives should be clear.  Per the regs, all ON-HIGHWAY Diesel fuel cannot contain any color or dye.  Only OFF-ROAD fuel can be dyed (typically red).  Many years ago "premium" Diesel fuel was dyed green but since the regulation, one cannot tell by "color" if a fuel is premium or contains an additive.  Only if it is on or off highway.  BTW, this past summer when I went to Des Moines for the ATHS show, I refueled at truck stops.  I noticed at several stops, the fuel was dark.  I prefer not to refuel at truck stops but they are convenient when traveling cross country.  I try to avoid truck stops because of the potential for "off spec" fuel (think about it, you fill up in New York and have issues in a distant location...makes it difficult to trace the fuel?).  Also for many years, truck stops were suspected of dumping used oil into the fuel rather than pay to have the used oil disposed.  I heard (and saw) too many horror stories concerning "truck stop fuel".

Billy T - wasn't suggesting you were recommending "gasoline", just making the statement not to use gasoline.

5 hours ago, farmer52 said:

As for fuel economy improvement...fuel additives will maintain "like new" fuel economy in newer engines (prevent injector and combustion chamber deposits) and improve fuel economy close to "like new" in an older engines (depends on age and deposits).  Real world improvements are typically in the 1%-2%.   Again this will depend on how clean or dirty are your injectors and combustion chamber.  And don't expect a fuel additive to "resolve" other mechanical issues.

I should clarify the "maintain like new fuel economy in newer engines"...don't expect a fuel economy increase just because you use a fuel additive.  You may see a "slight" improvement due to the cetane boost but basically unmeasurable.  Adding a fuel additive in newer engines will prevent deposits from forming in fuel injectors and combustion chamber.  Deposits will eventually degrade fuel economy.  Other than deposits, an additive will boost cetane, add lubricity, and stabilize the fuel.

Cetane controls the rate and smoothness of combustion.  Higher cetane has a decreasing rate of return...a little/some is helpful but MORE is not going to add any benefits.  Higher cetane will decrease the typical "combustion knock" in Diesel engines.  New Diesel engines us pilot injection and ultimately several injections during the combustion event.  This is mainly to reduce emissions.  Older engines with mechanical injection were one "big squirt".  Did you ever notice newer Diesel engines seem to run quieter?  You can thank common rail and electronic technologies.

I agree overtreat is "wasting" your money.  Treat as directed.

Then there are the "coal rollers"...another subject another day.

I just bought a case (6-64oz bottles) of Standayne Performance Formula additive on fleabay for $127.90 with free shipping.  Each bottle treats 250 gallons of Diesel fuel.  Here is the link to Alliant who bought the fuel additive business from Stanadyne.

Alliant: https://alliantpower.com/content/alliant-power-diesel-fuel-treatment

Sales flyer: https://alliantpower.com/sites/default/files/documents/ap-product-flyers/2016/ap-ft-us-sales-flyer_en_0.pdf

As for fuel economy improvement...fuel additives will maintain "like new" fuel economy in newer engines (prevent injector and combustion chamber deposits) and improve fuel economy close to "like new" in an older engines (depends on age and deposits).  Real world improvements are typically in the 1%-2%.   Again this will depend on how clean or dirty are your injectors and combustion chamber.  And don't expect a fuel additive to "resolve" other mechanical issues.

On another note: NEVER NEVER put gasoline in Diesel fuel.  As Randy mentioned the flash point is lower but gasoline has lower cetane and NO lubricity.  Diesel engines want high cetane and gasoline engines want high octane.  If you don't want to treat with a fuel additive, at least blend some No. 1 Diesel for winter.  Your fuel economy will drop but it will help prevent fuel gelling.  Another fact about winter Diesel, the winterized fuel will vary from region to region.  That is, fuel in the northern states will be treated for lower temperatures then fuel in southern areas.  So if you buy fuel in the South and drive north to say New England or Canada you may have a fuel gelling issue.