Keith S

18 hours ago, Mark T said:

Harbor Freight always asks if you'd like to buy the extended coverage..... they should offer some kinda insurance for when you get hurt using their junk. 

Hazard Fraught has improved, but they still have a lot of junk. Their 4-ton floor jack seems good - don't know if will lift 4 tons.

What attachment points are you using with blue stand?

A shop I worked in had an overhead rail-mounted electric chain hoist that helped flipping and rotating and moving these beasts around.

I suspected transmission issues when the truck was jacked up for hauling it to the shop - water dripping off the output shaft. But it was, "clean and clear water so maybe it was just a little rain water sitting on top of the case. And how much water could there be?" 

The input shaft didn't turn... maybe it was simply jammed between two gears??? I pulled the duplex cover before its drain plug, to see how much just to see how much oil there was. Water's heavier than oil so it'll be bottom. The top picture shows water, not oil.

I'm going to rebuild the transmission - hopefully nothing requires crazy torque numbers. 450ft-lb will be tough.

1 hour ago, mowerman said:

Hell man I would jump on that good luck bob

I'm on it. Wednesday Jan., 3rd.

Now I have to buy a couple more manuals.

How about some pictures of that engine stand? Has to be a beast.

Working outside during inclement weather - brake jobs during snow storms. Twice.

Here's what I found:

• 283hp E6 out of a 1981 Mack RD600
• 2,800lbs
• It runs but should be rebuilt
  • Intake valve springs broken
  • Cylinder wear
• $750
• $900 shipping

My only concern is installing it in my B61. Mating it to the transmission and front crossmember?

Fuel injection lines were removed but...

21 hours ago, Licensed to kill said:

There is no question (in my mind) that there is someone out there that would want it. The problem is always transport with things like this. I have an engine (673E IIRC) that was reported to be a fresh rebuild (from a LONG time ago) with few miles on it that I don't need out if one of my B-61's. I have yet to start it (but will some day) but even if it starts and runs perfect, I still have no use for it and, while it may be just what someone needs, to ship it anywhere would probably cost more than its worth, not unlike to couple B-61 diffs I have. Hopefully someone can be found within "come and get it" range that can use it should the decision be finalized to go a different route. Big, heavy parts are like real-estate, location, location, location. 

Cost of shipping heavy stuff can kill the deal. I had a B46 shipped from Maine to Florida. Cost wasn't too bad - around $1 per mile. It wasn't the only thing being hauled. The hauler liked the attention and said he could have sold it several times.

All the stud are 9/16-18 x 6.75". A few are little rust-pitted, and a few more show minor marks from using vise-grips.

I was able to easily remove the nuts on all but one of the eight studs that unscrewed from the block. I'm confident the studs will torque up.

But... It's probably cheaper than an electric conversion

Probably

I'm finding a lot of things look good until looking at the details:

• Cylinder head studs & nuts
  • My 673 uses 9/16-18 x 6.75"
  • PAI has the 6.75" length... but only in 5/8-18, nuts too.
• Pistons, liners and head gaskets
  • Pistons... maybe. If the 673 pin diameter is 2" and 15:1 or 17:1 compression
  • Liners - all seem to be for use with the Fire Ring heads & gaskets
  • Head gaskets - Only for 20 stud heads/block.
  • I found a set of 18 stud gaskets - $375.
• Fuel injection
  • Don't know if the injection tubes leak. Water got in #4 cylinder somehow?
  • PAI has replacement tubes, but do the fit?

It's easy to spend a lot of money before knowing what I need and what's available. It's hard to get dimensions of new parts.

I'd like to rebuild it just because I like this stuff. But not if I can't get the parts I need for a nice, quality rebuild of the engine and accessories.

Head gaskets seem to be the biggest issue. PAI only list 20-stud gaskets.

Cylinder #4 is rust-pitted.

PAI has a lot of parts for the E6 with notes that include the END673. Except for the head gaskets, most pieces-parts "look" correct.

Are the major components for the END673 and the E6 comparable?

I'm considering a complete rebuild of my END673. It's not the original engine.

Fuel injection:

• Needs new lines. Straight or pre-bent are sold as a pair - if someone is interested in a set.
• Injectors "look" OK for a quick (not expensive) rebuild.

Cylinder heads:

• Pulled the valve covers, it looks like a fairly recent valve job - or at least new spring!
• Found a broken flat-head phillips screw sitting there doing nothing - no idea.
• A lot of carbon buildup on the intake and exhaust ports.
• Slight sign of water on #4 intake valve
• Pulled both heads
  • Cylinder #4 shows pitted rust. It's not seized.
  • Some head studs had been removed/installed with vise grips - I've seen a lot worse, but.
  • Two different heads
  • Two different head gasket types
  • Two different rocker shaft mounting brackets - one was stepped, the other solid.

Haven't dropped the oil pan yet.

Thoughts on a complete rebuild?

Joey Mack, are you interested in printing copies of the B-61 manuals?

• I just bought a Service and Parts manual for B61T from All Vintage Trucks and was not pleased.
  • Some of the images are too dark to be useful.
  • A lot of bleed-through from the back of the page
  • Quickly looking at the brake section I found quite a few duplicate pages - three (3) copies of the foldout for "TROUBLE SHOOTING" air brakes.
  • Off center pages
• I've scanned and copied a lot of old documents.
• Quality copies of old documents requires more than putting the book in the printer feeder and hitting "go".

I emailed Vintage that I was not happy. He said he'll relay the issues to the printer.

This is his second reply

• Keith:
•      Thank you for your order and your comments. I am waiting for the response from our printer. In the meantime, your order will ship today. Once again, thank you and best regards,
• John

Not sure if that means I'm getting another copy of each book?

This is an old post, but do you still have any of this?

That looks great. Thanks, That will help.

What's the unit next to the governor - just above the heater hoses?

The passenger side photos with and without fuel injection are really good and make sense.

• It looks like there are several configurations for the non-turbo driver's side.
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For some perspective on two of the five vehicles I have in the shop:

• On the left is a 1990 Mini Cooper - curb weight: 1,500lbs.
• On the right is the '53 B61 whose current weight (estimated by the hauler) is 13,500lbs.
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Great pictures.

I knew I was missing a lot of "stuff".

Thanks.

I'm upgrading it before it's on the road. More batteries and another motor.

I'm working on the B61 to get an idea of where it's at:

It's rough and missing a lot of parts - that's why I'm trying to get pictures for the routing of air line, fuel lines, intake air...

I finally found some information on the BARTLETT 8A1 lifting 5th wheel:

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• Kinda rough with lots of repair welds and extra bracing.
• Haven't found any documentation on it - the rubber billows (photo below) makes me think in air powered.
  • I finally found an inlet fitting - but nothing fits it.
  • It might be an airline bulkhead fitting - like the fitting for the front brakes . It's the only fitting I haven't tried.
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Thanks. I see where some of my box of parts are attached.

This is exactly the kind pictures I need.

That is a serious housing attaching the box to the frame!

Thanks.

It's now in my shop in Florida.