1958 F.W.D.

to Ladder 20 1969

That one picture of it in front of a firehouse is absolutely no doubt Engine 36 & Ladder 20's house on Frankford Avenue.

And Jack Wright is a good man, I have known him for a long time. If he said it, you can etch it in stone.

Captain Bob, you need to private message FDNYTRUCKS.com He is a member here, his name is Mike Martinelli. He is a GOD when it comes to cataloging Mack serial numbers and original purchasers. He maintains meticulous records, and even has extensive records of second and third owners.

He might even see this and respond. In fact I will hit him up on facebook and tell him to take a peek here.

Is that safety yellow, or just bright yellow? The computer is not accurate with color representation to me.

Gonna be an attention grabber for certain.

Rob

Does it matter? it's NOT RED!!!! Either way it's SLIME LIME!

Any ideas were the CF aerialscopes went to????

The single screw scope sat outside that grain place next to I95 (the one with the 2 huge grain tanks in Port Richmond) with all the other heavy equipment for years. Dont know what ever happened to it after that.

albert

Is this the flea market you are refering to?

16-17 April 2011 - Allentown, Pennsylvania

Union Historical Fire Society Annual Spring Melt. Allentown Fairgrounds Agri-Plex Expo Center. 302 N. 17th St, Allentown, PA 18104. Auction preview Sat 16th at 7 a.m. Show Sun 17th at 9 a.m.

Yes, that's "The Spring Thaw." Greatest and largest fire flea market in the US.

Everyone would like to help after I tell them what I am trying to do but they ALWAYS ask for the city property number.

You really, really need to hook up with Harry Magee. He is a super buff and PFD historian, and knows ways to "get around the property numbers." Anyone else at the Museum (no offense to them) are usually just light-duty firefighters who could really care less about apparatus. And if Harry cannot find what you need without the city property numbers, he knows guys who kept track of that stuff and keep good records.

If you haven't done so yet you may want to get in contact with the Philly Fire Museum Fireman's Hall.

CONTACT HARRY MAGEE AT FIREMAN'S HALL. Harry is a uniformed Philadelphia Firefighter, permanently detailed to the museum as the curator. Give him a yell during business hours (except mondays when the Museum is closed) and yak with him....tell him what you are looking for. I am sure he could come up with the companies it was assigned to, and see what he has laying around in the archives. He may also be able to see if the companies themselves have anything in their individual archives or hanging up on the walls.

Yes, I guess I should have specified that, it is a Hale pump. I know Cal Little, he is one resource I'm going to call. This is my 1st time using this forum, just got this rig after my 1948 L85 sedan cab was incinerated on September 1st in the propane explosion in Collingdale, Pa . BIG thanks to all who responded!

Hahahahahahah Georgie I should have known it was you....."DCC Kaiser." Randy Yardumian here.

Mack did not make the pump. Chances are that it is a Waterous pump, possibly a Hale.

Bought the ex-Bala Cynwyd 1948 Mack last month. Nice rig, have it cleaned and lettered, but when I hooked it up to a hydrant this afternoon, I found out that at some point during it's soujorun out west, the pump froze up, the case is split wide open. So, now I'm looking for a 750GPM 3 outlet pump, one that isn't cracked. What good is a L85 that can't pump at draft at Harrisburg in July?

I found two Mack fire trucks one is an L model and the other I am not sure. They are both at Essington Av Auto Parts in Southwest Philly sitting outside. I called twice but the guy was very rude and said they are not for sale and hung up. They both say Curt Weldon fire brigade on them.

You are not the only one who has tried to talk to that guy about those rigs. Quite a few guys have called there to ask about looking at them for parts or outright total purchase, and for some reason the guy just won't budge.

What company you assigned to? I used to live in E71's local. Was a firefighter at the PNSY for a while.

Hello everyone,

I am Michael Martinelli, and I operate the website fdnytrucks.com I am a huge Mack fan, and have a collection of several thousand images of Mack Fire Apparatus. I also maintain a large database of all types of Mack fire Apparatus. I just found this site today, and already added a serial number to the Mack C database, which was Bridgeton's ladder. I had the info, just no serial to go with it.

is there a database somewhere on these boards? If not, if anyone has info on their rigs that they want to share, I am always looking to add info. if I have shots of your rig, I'll be happy to share.

thanks!

Mike Martinelli

Christ it took you long enough to find this board.

What a fantastic day! i just got back, got things unloaded and shoved in the shop. OH Boy what a day! I have got pictures to post, I just have to get a chance to get them on here. Right now I have the battery for the camera charging cause I wore it out today. If you weren't there you missed a GREAT day! Doug

Indeed it was a GREAT day. It was nice to meet you guys, perhaps I may just have to join up the chapter and volunteer my time to the museum.....(what time???) Thank you for all your hard work helping Mack put together this great event!!!!

Does anyone want to meet me on Route 309, in the area of 378 or Quakertown, and convoy in together??? I would meet you further out but I live too close!!! LOL

I'll be there with my 1958 F.W.D. and then probably put her away to hibernate for the winter!!!

Anyone have the low-down on dates for the show this year????

I believe Kenny is going to be correct- If it's oval, it is probably a Waterous pump and transfer valve, which means you need a punch to drive out the pin.

I am assuming this is a Mack???? I would start by contacting the Mack Trucks museum in Allentown, Pa. Make sure you have the serial number of the truck. They will pull the archives of the truck, copy, and send to you. Very friendly guys at the museum, always willing to help out someone in "Mack" need.

I sent a message to a close friend of mine who is a member of J.E. Dubois Hose Company #3, I asked if he knew anyone over at the ladder company and if he could poke around for some info. Will let you know.

I am positive that is DuBois, Pa's old piece. If it is, let me know, I have a good friend who is a member of one of the DuBois companies.

The City of DuBois has an entirely volunteer fire department, split up into (I think) four or five stations. I cannot remember which company had the ladder truck, but I can certainly find out and probably get some information for you.

DuBois was an all-Mack city for a very long time.

Be prepared to pay big bucks for a fire truck bell in decent shape. They usually bring $500-$1500.

Part of our responsibilities (of course) as Firefighters was shipboard firefighting. We constantly boarded the inactive ships in order to familiarize ourselves with firefighting systems, layouts, etc. My engine company Captain, who was also somewhat of a ship buff, would take us out to drill often. He loved to just go aboard a ship and "sight see." Got to spend a memorable several hours one time aboard the Iowa, where we explored for what seemed like all day. Got to see President Truman's cabin, and (what was rumored) to be the only bathtub aboard a Naval vessel, which was installed for him. They never removed it, in case if another high-profile politician ever chose to transit aboard the Iowa. We also toured the inside of the Number 2 Turret, which suffered a catastrophic explosion on April 19, 1989 which killed 47 crewmen. There is a plaque inside the turret, with all of the crewmembers names. The bulkheads inside are all visibly blown outwards. Unfortunately on this particular day, I did not have my camera with me, but photography inside the ships was verboten anyways. Technically I probably could have gotten in trouble for taking these outside shots, but the PNSY was pretty much shut down by then anyways.

I used to be a Federal (Civilian) Firefighter at the Philadelphia Naval Shipyard Fire Department a while back. I was (still am!) a big Naval Ship Buff, so working there was great. Here are some shots of the USS Iowa BB61 that I got when she was tied up there when assigned to the Inactive Fleet. Last I heard the Iowa was at the Suisun Bay, California inactive fleet storage site. Seen here tied up on the Delware River, along what was called "The Battleship Quaywall." The carrier USS Forrestal (which had been shipped up to Newport RI, but came back down to Philly about a month ago) is on the outboard (river) side of the Iowa.

Happy 100th to the F.W.D. (Four Wheel Drive Auto Company) Corporation!!!!!! A small celebration was held this week at the plant in Clintonville, Wi.