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I'm still running split rims on my RD822. Granted, tubeless are easier to change and repair but there is nothing unsafe about a tube type split ring rim.
Unless I was really concerned about keeping the truck 100% original, I wouldn't even consider copper lines. Not because it's unsafe, it's just because plastic is just so much cheaper and easier to install.
You did get what I was saying. Copper and split rims are not the norm and it does take extra care to maintain these components. Nothing wrong with them other than not many places will work on copper lines or split rims out this side of the country. If a shop will it is extra money or they rather refer another shop. No shop will work on my aluminum split rims on my LT. No shops ether with a pump stand to work on a modified mechanical pump here ether, had to send mine back to Ohio.
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Thanks for all the good advise. I wanted to use copper as it was original. The discharge line off the compressor is 3/4" A/C tubing which is thin and I suspect the weak link in the system. I saw some trucks at York last summer with what appears to be new copper tubing. I will have to rethink this.
You can get DOT copper but it is $$. If you were doing a static display or a trailered show queen the use of non approved lines may get you by but consider the liability if something happens. A DOT inspection may flag you as well.
I have a restored B that I wanted to drive so I went with plastic and tubeless tires. Most guys understand things like safety first. Copper and split rims are original but how many guys are still really using split rims these days too.
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The LT was designed for the west coat with longer WB for the times to take advantage of weight laws at the time. The use of aluminum was a 2000 lbs. savings for on the road units. All the off road and loggers did not use the aluminum components. The quality of casting back then was poor and they broke. Consider that there were only 2001 LT's built in approx. 12 years it was not a high production unit to start with compared to over 9,200 of the B70 series over a 12 year time period. The B was out on the west coast and did interstate duty it was the replacement for the LT. A L cab was an option until the end of production in 1966. There are B70's in California, Oregon,Washington. Lots of B70's in Texas too. That did short run and vocational work as well. I have a west coast B and I am asked why so long, I don't remember them being that long, it was the Cal, law's then.
Remember Mack was an East coast manufacture so there are far more of them the closer you get to the the east coast. Pete and KW plant where more central in the country and easer to distribute units and parts. It comes down to a geographical thing and time. Mack never was known as the over the road truck to have. More cement, dirt and gravel has been delivered by Mack's than anyone. Pretty sells, Pete & KW had that figured out long before Hayward.
Hayward was the attempt to get more placement out West and it was to little to late even with the Superliner as the flagship.
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What R is it?
Looks like a smaller engine one because of the shutter size. Every different R variation started with 1001. It is a piece of history but what one is it? My brother had the 1967, R719-1003 not the first but was close. It will never look like that R though, Very nice!!
Great job and a lot of work.
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Man that stinks, missed it by and hour. Thanks for the info but just sat down at the computer and went right to Ebay, it was gone. Anyone here get it? I got the clamp on tester that reads RPM and Timing. It should be fine but I would have bought it just to double check. I'll keep looking.
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Ya saw that Superliner Toterhome in the back ground. Love to have that! The Liberty is really nice too! Great job on that.
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Think it is mandatory to have the stainless flex line off the air compressor these days. As for the original look that is what it I did. Use plastic DOT tubing and covered it with cloth sheathing, covering. It is the same covering used on the trucks copper lines originally. The plastic is easier to work with and you can't really tell when it is covered.
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You need to use DOT plastic tubing. You can not use "regular" copper tubing. The old stuff was DOT approved copper and is very expensive if you can find it today. It is a liability issue so only use DOT labeled plastic tubing and fittings. If there would be an accident you may not have insurance coverage using non approved lines.
Maybe someone else can comment but I woulds not reuse old copper that would need to be re-bent ether, work harding and corrosion maybe an issue.
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Photo's or it does not exist!!!
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Us spoiled rotten, we have earned it and lived through the back when.. What about our kids... I have done OK and my kids think they can just take it from there, don't think so... First cars they got to drive, yes I cosigned for it, were stick shift. "Dad no one has a standard why do I" Because you need to be using both hands and feet and stay off the phone and once you lean you won't forget what a clutch is for. Working on things is making a phone call for service and opening the hood. Forbid if they had to drive some of the stuff we did. No power steering, no radio, no air ride and the all important A/C. Times have changed wonder what they will tell their kids about progress?
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I remember those day and nights when the way to see if the ignition was working. When something like this: Hey Tim grab that coil wire and let me know if you feel anything when I crank it... He flies out from under the hood and lands in his ass...Guess it's got spark must be the rotor or cap. We still try the simple stuff first, I liked it that way. I cant do anything with this new electronic stuff.
Tim was my 8 year old little brother when I was 16.
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some good lookin trucks there how good is this one 6a00e5528fe1698834013488d8010f970c.jpg
Paul
That is another great Super, really. Just got to get the mirror dogs facing the right way. Wasn't this one restored a few years ago? I see the PA plate, think PA's got the most nice trucks of any state. Wish we had more meets and shows out west.
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Those things happen just not to me ether. It's like wine it get better and more expensive with age. I can't wait that long and drink it anyway...
Nice Super, glad it is in good hands. Sad you did not get the big bucks Tackaberry's is a dealer so probably not double.
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That green Superliner look pretty good to begin with. Those guy find some nice trucks to begin with. How long until we see the finished restoration?
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That can't be real.... Don't think those low low profile tires are better than load range C. Wheels would be $2500 each.
Only thing I can think of is the song "Little Pink Mack".... It is certainly a conversation starter. Wonder what drives it if real?
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I paid a $1 a mile up to $1.75 depending on where the drop deck truck is at the time. 1-2 week pick-up to delivery. That is Call for pick-up to delivery. Getting it up on the trailer would be extra unless you have a piece of equipment to help.
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I thank they looked same but its been many years.I have had a lot of them off and on.I follow up behind a guy one time that had pulled the pump with out moving the injector lines.All eight of them was staring me in the face when I looked down in there.Now that I think some more I think the PSM was on the 864 and the PSJ was on some 673 engines.Very few of them that I remember.
Sort of like a spider with it's legs pulled off with the injector lines...LOL. You just don't do those things.
All I know is that both the PSM & PSJ were not good pumps for the most part. A lot of problems with them for many guys. Think both came in 4, 6 & 8 cylinders versions and used on other engines.
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The single plunger pump model was PSM or PSJ
Boy I don't know, it is the one that looks like a spider from the top with all the injector lines. I'll have to get back to the barn to look at the tag. What was the difference, plunger size?
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I know the first V-8 motors had the single barrel injection pump. Did they change the pump on 864 to the v style or did that happen on the 865? Also, is that v pump the same one they used on the first E9?
I am also looking for any 864 parts or motors if anyone comes across them.
As 39 Baby Mack said all the 864's except the very last ones had the single barrel pump. You could get ether an 864 or an 865/866 for a few years in the early 70's if I remember correctly.
The V pumps on the 865/866 are similar but not the same as an E9. 11mm plungers in the 865/866, some with retard notch, 13mm plungers in the later E9's. Look the same though.
I have a complete 864 in the barn in Ohio. Have kept it for 20 years but doubt I will every use it. It ran when I got it. Was out of one of the first R-700's. I used an 866 in my B755, PM me about it, also have good twin turbos but no manifolds.
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I understand you cant find brgs.
That is correct. There are 3 different standard main bearings listed for the 865/866. I rebuilt mine close to 20 years ago and could only get one of the part numbers, clearance was on the high side but in spec. I have on the low side oil pressure, min 30psi@650rpm, hot idle and 60@1500rpm. OK but I would like to see 90psi. I recently talked to a old V8 guy and said the 2 oil pump springs need replaced. I did not put new ones in at rebuild. Cant find them ether. Maybe shimming will be the only fix. It is a show truck so no real load on the engine.
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I like them stock but very few updates are OK
I like the OEM period correct look for a lot of things. I'm sort of at the edge of overdoing restorations though with detailing. Everything, brackets, tanks, bumper, seats, etc, are what I remember. I do polish and chrome parts but they are correct for the truck. Adding a few gauges and maybe power steering is a good thing. I do have one exception, got to have big period correct power. Still an old hot rodder at heart.
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Crank is the same 865/866. Only difference is the pump settings. Thats a deal for $800 if it is free and turns over. Won't find a good crank for less.
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For there being 13000+ 865's there doesn't seem to be many survivors compared to the E-9. Was the 865 the best of the early V-8"s
I have heard there was upwards of 12-13000 E9's as well produced. There are still MORE than a few working every day. There are issues with them the biggest is parts availability and the cost of parts. Other thing is ALL mechanical, no plugin date logging for the man.
We have had 6-8 of the early V8's. The heads and bearings were issues. We scrapped all of them except for 2, one is in my B. The reason there are few still around is that it is far easer to replace them with a I6 engine that has over 100hp and 400ft/lbs of torque more and be more reliable. Parts are an even bigger issue than the E9's. No one even knows what they are to work on them, we do all our own work. Funny, Mack here in AZ said most of their Guys have never seen one to begin with. I was the only guy to order parts for one in the last 10 years or an E9 for that matter.
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Have Rockwell lockers in the Superliner. Two switches, one for both axle cross-locks, other for inter-axle, (front diff to back diff), Don't know why you would do any other switch setup. Turning radius is greater with things locked together. Those lockers are pricey and can be hurt kind of easy. Take care of them.
Mack has the peanuts in the rear diff to get them to lock but not standard in the front. Mack does have inter-axle air lock, common to have.
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Thought that was a test run for the Mack submarine program that got shelved with VOLVO..... A Mack will go anywhere!!!