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Damned if you do, damned if you don't.....had the same dilemma and decided that we buy used for regional work and new for long work as the long work trucks are putting over 200,000kms per year.

On new trucks the cost per mile should be lower, more fuel efficient and have a warranty. Plus you get that new truck smell.....woohoo!

You can also get burned on the new truck side like waiting almost 2 weeks for injectors because Mack and Volvo don't have enough supply for the demand!

2 weeks of no income on a new truck is a huge hit in the pocket. That and you need a pretty good down payment on a new one to make it affordable per month. New engines can fail too. No one pays for your downtime on your new truck.

I would go used and rebuild the friggen thing before it hits the road. You may have more small repair issues every weekend to tend with then with a new truck but small price to pay for rolling down the road in a better built Mack of the pre-90's. Finance the rebuild, go nuts! You will still come out saving coin from buying a used gem. If you buy new you will have more of a value in the asset once you finish paying for it. Your new one will always be worth more then your old one by the time you finish paying for both if the loans are for the same term.

Most important, buy something you will take pride in driving while being able to afford paying for it.

I know there is a lot more that can be said here......It can be a pretty deep and argumentative subject new versus used.

Get what you have always wanted.

after two three fart the SMELL of new is gone

no truck today will outlast any old Mack's

buying new vs used is always an old dilema ( remember the egg or the chick) .

sorry for the lost of you father , this is very hard to take ( I know very well) . you can cry all you can it does help .

Does Deere actually make anything other than backhoes, the excavators are Hitachis the dozers and track loaders are Leibherr don't know about the wheel loaders I've never had to work on one yet.

Small & medium dozers are DEERE's the bigger ones (1050C) are Liebherr , I don't think that Excavators are all Hitachi's the deere brand are still made in USA.

it was a nice show , nice drags , way too many (uglyfied) Pete's for my own taste, I'll try to get some pics

saw only five Mack's .

Found this hiding in the woods in Sloatsburg,NY.I think it is for power line work.

Rob

those 1050C are not real John-Deere they are nade by Liebherr .

look like it is been a nice show ! missed it again . thank you for sahring the pics .

Nice vid Vinny , by the way it must have been hard not to drive it around a bit !!!

just spent a couple hours on the phone and computer pulling my hair out, local Mack wants the part number for the part manual, online does not list parts manuals for 1980, the list goes from 1971 then skips to 1981 and up. Spoke with Mack customer service, they referred me to the Mack museum which they don't have the manual when I spoke with them and they said contact the dealer, dealer said contact Mack customer service, they said contact the dealer, dealer said contact Mack customer service, they said contact the dealer, dealer said contact Mack customer service, they said contact the dealer, dealer said contact Mack customer service, they said contact the dealer, dealer said contact Mack customer service.

been there with our dealer , I let the leach go , gave up .

Any one have a R686 Parts manual they want to sell or copy???

Fianally got the old girl back from the heavy equipment shop. Engine completely rebuilt, used rebuilt torque converter, rear axle housings, steering rebuilt. Radiator recored, new brakes, lines, and master cylinder. Counterweight that was hanging off properly re-attached. I wanted to get it painted, but I was getting too much money into it. We didn't get the parking brake fixed either. This winter I'll show those snow banks who's boss!

A friend of mine has one excatly like that for sale !

hum ! govt. having share in company is not a very good thing, because the company don't change the rules about big bosses bonuses et many times the company goes belly up and the employes are going belly empty !

The laddy in the ladder is LIGHTly dressed as we can say ! never good to be top heavy in a ladder though !

she seems to have nice ribs as well .

I just read that thread , good to know that he is improving , whish the best to you and your family

what this thread if perfect , not even a typo !!

This truck was part of the final purchase of Sterlings in '09. It has a dpf-equipped Detroit Diesel and these trucks have been plagued with mechanical problems since new. I'm told this is a stop-gap measure because they didn't purchase enough new equipment this year but don't plan on adding any more until next year. We'll see.

it might fall out before the end of the year , if you have some spare tie down use them properly to keep the cab on the frame , do not over tight the tie down though cause you might bend something, your on the right track to get a new ride soon .

good to hear good news about Oshkosh ,

Another nice part of history of truck making, very interesting.

thank you for sharing

thank you for sharing , lots of nice truck .

Welcome to BMT , and don't feel bad about being a lady in the truck & mecanic world ! my girlfriend is also a engine maniac ! you will find here so much information and help that you wouldn't believe it could exist.

hum I like the chalenge ' since I already have the seal kit might as well go for it , I'll keep you posted

and by the way waht is the meaning of "IDK" ?

A few more. Red 761 with 318 detroit and a 359 with pt 270 cummins

Love the look of those short nose

Here`s one that a good friend of mine made from scratch..

http://www.1-87vehicles.org/photo85/mack_mp404x_dump.php

Very well done scratch built , this guy has talent.

welcome , Mack is a special breed , but we are friendly .

welcome to you , enjoy the ride

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that truck looks good and the logo is also very nice .

mine is leaking form the top shaft , and I have a replacement kit ! are you saying here it is not worth the try to fix it ??