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Doesn't look any worse than some of the late model Lexus cars and SUV's! You what is really crazy? Between the Tundra and the class 3-4 Hino Toyota doesn't offer any class 3 conventional trucks. No 3/4 or 1 ton pickups, no chassis-cabs. Why?

I was trying to think where/when I saw the last stand-alone commercial truck GMC dealer in Southern California. The was the old 'factory' store that was once near downtown that moved to Santa Fe Springs, but they closed around 1996. They was a small one in Van Nuys, but they went to selling Isuzu after GM quit medium duty. As far as the 'big' commercial truck dealers are/were concerned, seems to me that most that were selling GMC's also had one or two other brands (Freightliner, ect.). Are any of the 8 remaining GMC-only dealers exclusively commercial truck? No question a lot of GM dealers got burned when GM exited the commercial medium duty market. Just like Sterling, UD, Iveco, Dodge, Brockway, and Diamond Reo dealers. A few GMC commercial truck dealers lost the franchises when GM heavy truck merged with Volvo/White. And some Ford dealers didn't get Sterling franchises either. BTW- Somewhere I have a copy of an old 'GMC News' issue that extols the virtues of selling pickups and other light trucks for private use to GMC dealers. It's dated 1966.........

GMC division is making FAR more money building expensive light trucks and SUV's than they ever did with commercial trucks, that's why. Ain't no boat to miss.

I think both the 2020 Ram HD and the upcoming GM heavy duty pickups and medium duty chassis-cabs are going to significantly eat into Ford's market share. I also noted in the GM news that one of the plants slated for closure is the Baltimore transmission plant. That plant was the part of Allison that GM kept, and for the last several years has manufactured the 1000 series transmission for GM trucks along with some of the 2000 series transmissions for other OEM's. I wonder if production of those transmissions will transfer to another GM plant or move to an Allison facility.

First Emeryville. Came in both cabover and conventional, aluminum cab, Cummins H or Hall-Scott gasoline power, maybe a few had Buda's. Rare truck.

Yes, but I was referring to introducing 4 cylinder diesels to the U.S. medium market. Detroit 4-53 not withstanding!

Isuzu really started something, didn't they? I am starting to see a lot of FTR's around L.A. too.

Bye-bye diesel, hello CNG?

New class 4/5, courtesy of their JV with GM: https://cumberland-companies.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/CV-SpecSheet-04.pdf

Rumors are swirling that the F-650 and 750 will be axed in 2020, but Ford officially states they remain committed to medium duty.

Oh boy. The company I work for had a few back in the day, and I did get a chance to drive one on occasion. I thought it was ugly, the side-opening hood was a PITA, the old early-60's vintage International cab was an ergonomic nightmare and rusted like crazy. Steering wheel was too big and at a goofy angle. Heat/defrost/temp. knobs got stuck all the time. And I loved it! It was one of the last ones built (had the 'Binder' nameplate on the hood), 345 2bbl. with a 5 speed (maybe a Clark?), 12' flatbed. For all it's vices it never let us down.

Just like those Ford Ecoboost engines. I guess the emissions are better.

Oh there it is. Sorry for the duplicate topic. Isuzu has been offering CNG and LNG for some time in Asia. I have a feeling gaseous fuel will be a big part of this collaboration.

I missed this from the other day. Sounds interesting: https://www.truckinginfo.com/315019/cummins-and-isuzu-agree-to-evaluate-global-partnership-opportunities

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-volkswagen-unit-ipo-banks/volkswagen-set-to-hire-four-banks-for-truck-unit-ipo-sources-idUSKCN1MI20Z

Think GM will make a move on AM General? Fits nicely in their plans, but AMG doesn't appear to have much future at the moment. HMMWV is winding down (though they got a big contract for ambulances recently), not much else on the horizon. Maybe that postal vehicle? Maybe together GM and AMG could develop a fuel cell powered autonomous 2.5 ton 6X6 successor to the CCKW and M-35!

It seems to me that from Dearborn's standpoint, Otosan-Ford isn't much more than the source of the Transit Connect. Beyond that there seems to be no interest in anything Otosan does. Case in point, the new award-winning Otosan heavy truck didn't so much as rate a mention in any of Ford's domestic media.

Nope, like it didn't even happen. But, great things happening with that train station!

New product might be the International version of the GM JV medium duty truck.

Will the new Ford be sold in Western Europe? If so, by whom?

I think VW wants a light commercial JV with Ford primarily for Western Europe. I have a suspicion Ford sees VW as a way OUT of Europe if things get much worse for them there. Something of a win-win. Or maybe a win-'not loose so much'! Traton wants to be Daimler Trucks, simple as that. And they have a chance.

Maybe, maybe not. Even if Traton does buy Navistar, I think it would be highly unlikely that either MAN or Scania would be introduced to the U.S. market. However, a JV with GM could be valuable to Navistar, particularly in class 3-6. GM provides engineering, components, and a lot more dealers focused on the medium duty market. Sure, there would be some internal competition between International and Chevy Commercial dealerships, but the combined number of dealers would be a very serious competitor to Ford in class 3-6. Why wouldn't Traton want that? A strong presence in class 3-5 is something DTNA does not have.

Sounds like the IPO decision has been made, it's just a question of timing. Still not convinced Traton will make a move to acquire all of NAV. Quite possible that NAV doesn't want to sell, and Traton can get all they want through equity and JV projects.

Ford will not enter class 8 in the U.S.. They do not want to spend the money and they don't want to build a vehicle with the required options or vendor supplied components to be competitive.

Same plant in Detroit where they have always been. I noticed in the video they are not shy about their General Motors heritage.