BC Mack

 

I've never seen a cab like that,wonder if its been shortened or did Mack offer a short bunk MH cab?

nor have I.... it has the small riser behind the seats for a mattress edge which is a bulkhead for seatbelt attachment, and I doubt if there is a pass through to the bunk but the photos don't show the back wall... I've added a pic of a 'day cab' for comparison.... was it damaged and cut short or a "factory special"..??... would be interesting to see the mounts close up.. if it's homemade that would be good craftsmanship but it certainly looks factory..!!!

BC Mack

 

Even in it's hayday when fuel was cheap, the Detroit 2 stroke sold mostly because it and it's parts were cheap. Today a 2 stroke Detroit is thoroughly obsolete.

https://arb.ca.gov/ports/marinevess/harborcraft/documents/alttechccts102610.pdf

Don Fairchild is the guru of bus 2 strokes and came up with this kit for marine engines which has caused a resurgence in their use as coastal communities and harbours clamped down on fish boats with 2 strokes...

I like them so much I have four..!!!  piece of cake to work on

BC Mack

Hobert.... I have a simple design in mind that copies a common tire carrier seen more in eu and uk.... maybe drivers there still know how to change a flat without a cellphone..!!!   a trailer tire basket still involves a struggle in-out

have added photos showing the basis on the design, has a built in winch which I may make detachable, it also serves as a step.

Swishy... agreed, by rotating the air cleaner so the intake is horizontal will raise the tube 2-3 inches... the parts are oem from 1989 and I went with the old rub marks for position.

BC Mack

finally got some time to finish this off, turned out ok, may try later to move it up a couple of inches by rotating the air cleaner but it will do just fine for now...

spare tire left on top of the frame while I design a side frame mount behind the right fuel tank, all I need is another project..!!

road tested and nothing fell off..!!!

BC Mack

most of the manufacturers have on-line manuals that have fault finding charts... 

have you established pump pressure, other than the seals what else did you disturb to do the work?

pinched line or blocked filter

needs basic diagnosis first before you go deep into surgery

BC Mack

5 hours ago, ws721 said:

This and a Western Star are 2 COE's that I haven't owned yet.   Someday

if I ever see a 'barn find' Star cabover like this I may have to violate some laws to own it...... 

BC Mack

Volvo made an attempt in the 60's to penetrate the class 8 market in the US with the "Tiptop", obviously they felt the competition too strong or too expensive to gain market share, this became the famous F88 and F89 series which was a major event in the history of Volvo worldwide..

I still see a few F6/7's locally... but parts support must now be as scarce as for the Renault Midliner..!!!

BC Mack

KSC,

I knew you would find some company document... I was just a little confused by the question, maybe I'll have to go hunting in South America for my elusive restoration project 141, prices in EU are outrageous... and if it was parked next to a non rusty F89, well, that would make my day... 

BC Mack

Scania uses prefix and suffix letter(s) around a three digit numeric core

for instance 112 would be 11 litre, series 2

suffix examples.. the 'H' was for high cab, M for medium

I did a Wiki and got a page in Spanish, so I translated it to see why those suffix letters you listed didn't make sense to me and it would appear it is the South American coding is a little different to Europe...

https://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scania

The Series 2 marked the debut of the new cabins, the first T 112M and 112H and 142M and 142H trucks had the front (and bonnet) lower than the Intercooler.

The power was 333 hp for the 11-liter engine with intercooler and 305 hp for the engine without intercooler. The 112M and 142M launched in 1982, had the same engine as the 111 and 141, respectively, were soon released the 112H and 142H (1982-1986). Scania with factory intercoolers only came in 1985, with the launch of the 112H, the famous "gray belt", in 1987, the 30th anniversary in Brazil, appears the front of the hood of Super Advanced, and put it next to Nomenclature of the model becoming 112HS (1987-1989), later was released the model 112HW (1989-1991), which already had two engine options with 310 or 360 horsepower. In the 14-liter V8 engine the power ranged from 375 horsepower (without intercooler) to 411 horsepower (with intercooler) at 142.

When the Series 2 was launched, the V8 engine came with new power: 388 hp, it was made available in the T-cab in T142 H, T142 HS and T142 HW (4x2, 6x2), T142 E T142ES and T142 EW (6x4) versions. The "R" cabin (old LK) was also available with a V8 engine, being R142 H, R142 HS and R142 HW (4x2, 6x2), R142E, R142ES and R142 EW (6x4).

google is your friend.. LOL

in the good old days all I wanted to see was "141".... as I climbed in the cab...  mmmmmmmm

BC Mack

I'm not a facebook fan but Paul Cox has an excellent group site going after moving off another format... and he has a spectacular K100 Aerodyne...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vQvrpRvkHI

https://www.facebook.com/groups/405493139509751/?ref=direct

BC Mack

11 hours ago, logtruckman said:

Im sure it could be done but wiring would be a nightmare plus cost of the engine probably $40-50k .  I'm sure a fuller or mack 13 or 18 speed would bolt up to it . Probably cost you 180to 200k to build one . The best thing would be for someone that had a good mack superliner,CL or MH that needed a new motor and buy a Scania v8 so the cost would be reasonable to do such a project . 

I think you hit the nail right on the head.... wiring..!!!!  probably the most complicated component of any new truck or bus in today's world... from the simplicity of a B to what we have today that can only be "talked to" via a laptop to a myriad of body computers and sensors.... and don't try sparking a wire on the frame to see if it is live... LOL

what would be the motivation for some to do it?... is the Scania so reliable and powerful that it would pay back the owner through enhanced line availability rather that stuck in a shop??

I have trouble with multiple vendors computer systems on the same vehicle where proprietary language restricts two competitor systems from talking to each other without a home made translation program written by computer geeks and their lawyers..!!!

BC Mack

5 hours ago, Vladislav said:

Don't you still have the pair of MH front springs? Or are they already gone?

I will send you a PM

BC Mack

23 hours ago, kscarbel2 said:

It is not my intention to cause BC Mack to feel homesick.

Nah... got over that years ago, anyway, they're calling them "trucks" and to me they are still "lorries".

I liked the experiment Scania did when they took driver's out of their latest product and gave them a 1970's Scania 111 "lorry" to drive, the sissies wanted their new "truck" back..!! 

"what's this lever here for?... that's for changing gear Sir.. why does it feel so stiff and make grinding noises??..!!!"

BC Mack

the only downside for the DRL in Canada is that in recent years the dash lights now come on automatically, so on the dark winter mornings the reduced intensity led headlights shine in front enough to see, the dash is bright.. but NO tail lights... if not for the glow from inside the car I would be rear ending them... and they wonder why I'm honking my horn, overtaking and turning my lights on-off to advise them of their error, but I've now figured they are clueless about driving skills and their accident will soon happen by karma.

same in US spec????

used to be that you had to turn the switch 'on' to get dash lights.. and a dark speedo triggered you to switch the lights on.... fed rule must have changed..!! progress?

many years ago, early 70's, we had a game we played when driving in the UK in daytime... called "flash a Volvo"... Volvo were the first to mass introduce safety daytime lighting on new cars, front side and rear tail, on the 144? and it used to piss off the owner no end having everyone flashing their headlights at them to say "your lights are on!!!"..

BC Mack

We stopped rebuilding our own but can still get "official Detroit 50" engines from the Canadian Detroit dealer. However, they come out of the Mexican factory... we stipulate new block, new head with sodium exhaust, new crank... the rest is Reliabilt... $35k cdn exchange

We found the blocks never were much good at the third rebuild at about 1.4mil kms of city transit work, pretty tough environment.

Depending on the criteria that Fitzgerald uses for "inspection" prior to "rebuild", that could be a factor in shorter than expected life.

It could be a 'varsol overhaul'... can't be established unless you ask for the dimension sheet of the engine on teardown and rebuild, that usually tells a story..!!!

BC Mack

I can understand the 92 not being desired, early problems left a bad taste and it took some time to iron out... even the 60 had early issues, we went to sodium exhaust valves as soon as they were offered.

BC Mack

Series 60 and 50 were designed for a mid-life bearing roll-in, and bull gear bearings too... look after these and the 60 is a smart choice.... 

Our dinosaur 50's are far more reliable than our Cummins ISL/M... lower maintenance cost $/mile and only thing against them is a minor fuel economy disadvantage.

I wonder if it was ever considered for the MH...??  maybe built too late, but the 14Lt with DDEC4 had 500hp available

You can see the lineage in the engines offered today by the MB empire..

BC Mack

23 hours ago, kscarbel2 said:

"Snorkel Air Intake", in lieu of "Frontal Air Intake", was a factory option.

Included was a Donaldson Air Ram Moisture Eliminator.

Ryder Truck Rental chose the option on a majority of their MH Ultra-Liner purchases.

The option was paired with a 13-inch Donaldson air cleaner on non-sleeper cabs (CA60), and a 16-inch Donaldson air cleaner on sleeper cabs (CAS62).

The optional was available with Mack 6-cylinder, Mack V-8, Cummins and Caterpillar powertrains.

The option was not available on MH642/643 models with Detroit Diesel power.

The option had a retail price of US$562 for the CA60 cab with a weight addition of 47 pounds.

The option had a retail price of US$753 for the CAS62 cab with a weight addition of 54 pounds.

KSC

thanks for the info

pic below is of a truck I was thinking of buying last year, it has the snorkel as you describe with the Donaldson intake, but mine is an all aluminum unit hence my "conclusion" it is a Maradyne...

BC Mack

you just reminded me I saw some air cleaners on kijiji the other day... may be useful to someone

https://www.kijiji.ca/v-heavy-equipment-parts-accessories/winnipeg/air-filter-housings/1268971660?enableSearchNavigationFlag=true

and that's in Canadian Pesos

BC Mack

J Hancock.... you win the prize..

just had a buddy send me info.. it's a Maradyne Power Ram

http://www.maradyne.com/product-line/turbo-precleaner/products/power-ram

gloss black it is... I wonder if they sell decals?

BC Mack

It seems I'm turning into an archaeologist with this mini-project, today I took to painting the parts so I dis-assembled the vortex intake... as I took it apart I was trying to find a clue as to who the manufacturer was, a part number, whatever... nada... so I figured the painted over decal may have something, it came off in one piece with a heatgun and some solvents got the coat off black paint off... hey presto... 

so... learned gentlemen.... who made "Power Ram" air intakes????? 

as said before, it's been hard to find pictures of an MH with a snorkel (other than Oz trucks and pimped up show trucks)... can't say I've seen every photo of an MH but this was the only photo I found which interestingly is also a Canadian truck, my parts truck origin is in Quebec

http://www.hankstruckpictures.com/pix/trucks/chris_hall/kingsway/ch_kingsway_mack_ultra_liner.jpg

we don't DO Hanks here, so you'll have to DIY

the vortex chamber and "weather vane spinner" is new to me, I can only figure that it assists in expelling ingested water... anyone want to sound out on how this works...!!!

I still cannot figure out if this is a factory option, dealer option or just an aftermarket thing...

see what tomorrow brings...

BC Mack

10 hours ago, TeamsterGrrrl said:

There was usually a huge price gap between the top capacity Allison like the 4000 series and the next model down like the 3000 series, so the engine makers would often offer a low torque engine to match the lower priced Allison's capacity.

big difference in physical size too... B400/3000 series weighs about 270kg but the B500/4000 is 430kg (both with retarder) and we use both at 300hp but the high gvw bendy buses get the 6spd B500... inside there are the same components but clutch surface area is about 50% more in the B500/4000 and a wider sump...

BC Mack

Paul,

that's a 1953 Austin

BC Mack