sdthoren

This is likely a newer version, but if you find a control module in a junkyard, may be able to adapt it. 

KYSOR ALARMS SERVICE AND INSTALLATION.pdf

I have a western RWL766 Super Liner I with a steel front section and aluminum frame. Can't get pics to attach, but can get some if needed.

Seems like the CPL (control parts list?) is a key piece of info that can narrow some of those details.  I have an older cpl book, been a while since I looked at it.

OK, thanks...looking for the lower right front fiberglass piece and grill parts in that area as well. 

On 5/10/2022 at 7:39 AM, The Rubber Duck 006 said:

My boss has acouple trailers full of MH cab parts etc so we should be good when we do find one and buy it

@The Rubber Duck 006  Curious if your boss is interested in selling some of the MH cab parts?

If so, I'm looking for trim piece around the shifter, center console on top of dash, HVAC controls plate, center vent assembly (including shroud behind dash).   

Thanks guys - halo test was good, although with the extended oil change setup, there's a lot of oil there!  Break over spring didn't have any slop - directly working the lever (vs linkage from pedal) didn't indicate any dead spots where the spring wasn't tight.

I didn't work on the truck much since Friday.  I'm trying to minimize any low rpm/idle time on the engine as well (due to unknown engine break in after in frame).  So I'm gathering troubleshooting ideas to maximize benefit of run time.

Chasing some cooling system issues as well. Lot of reliability things creep in when a truck sits for several years (or a decade!).

Thanks again for all the advice and input!

All right, all six injectors checked out/cleaned up/corrected.

Fuel inlet tubes 4, 5 and 6 "adjusted" to line up correctly on the pump.  Definitely plan to replace them, they were in rough shape before my work over, they certainly aren't any better now...  Truck does run a LOT better with no fuel seeping out turbo/exhaust connection.

Still have the surge right after start up, even before it gets warm - fjh and/or jojo, is the throttle lever breakover spring shown in the photo?  I'm not counting out a worn or sticky governor though, it sat for a number of years.  Will try your idea of getting the truck unlevel and see if the surge goes away h67st.

The truck supposedly had an in-frame done and what looks like new heads. Ran like crap and prior owner started to work on it, but didn't get it done.  So I'm unraveling some of the history, but concerned a break-in was not done and that I might wash down cylinder walls.  Going to check if any local shops can put it on a dyno - I don't have a trailer/load to put on it for a proper break in.

4 minutes ago, h67st said:

fjh is right on that one, check that breakover spring first. If that's not the problem you can check his idea about the governor by dropping the front or back of the truck in a low spot so the truck isn't level. If the idle smooths out then the governor is the problem.

Thanks guys, seems I'm battling a couple problems here. Going to verify injectors are decent (1), find new/used tubes or "adjust" existing to fit correctly (2), and then (3), see if my surge problem is still present after that.

Kinda surprised it was running with that drastic of timing problems on cylinders 4-6!!

I took a picture and did some markup to help show what I'm talking about, although you are tracking jojo.

I've got injectors 1-3 at the shop getting pressure/pattern checked, so the tubes are loose at the pump.  It's the 4-6 positions that are definitely hand bent.

It appears my turbo comes out straight, others seem to kick up and have more room underneath to run tubes.  I attached a pic of an E6 4 valve from the interweb (although you can't see turbo well in my pic).  Thanks, Scott

I picked up a 1984 Mack R model with an E-6 needing some attention.

The injection nozzle fuel inlet tubes between the pump and injectors 4-6 were out, along with the corresponding injectors.

The part that has me puzzled was that it seemed the inlet tubes were bent in such a manner that the sequence at the pump, from front to back was line 1, 2, 3, 6, 4, 5 (vs 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6).  It has a UTDS / Bosch / AMBAC PLM Model 300 injection pump on it.  Did somebody mess with this thing and bend lines all screwy?  Seems odd the tube/line sequence would not be 1-6 front to back on the pump.

I had it running that way, but was pushing a lot of fuel out the exhaust.  It also had a 45 second interval where rpms would drop way down, then pick back up (sticky governor after sitting a number of years)?

Thanks in advance for thoughts/advice.

I knew I had seen that truck before -

http://www.steelsold...920-hybrid.html

Two injectors later and with two marginal remaining, off to KC he went, arriving on a hook. Seems the truck quit once again just short of the mid trip destination. Frustrated, he purchased a plane ticket and flew to Dallas, then had his wife pick him up there.

I don't know the disposition of the truck at this point and am reserving unbiased judgement on what I would do with it.

Rob

Looks like a Bentz conversion crew cab. My Schalbe conversion crew cab runs just fine with an 8.3L ISC Cummins in it. Let us/me know if he's gonna scrap it, I've had a blast with mine!

Since this is the Roasted Peterbilt Owners post, figured I would chime in with my dirty little secret!

Here's my 2000 Peterbilt model 330, 8.3L Cummins, Allison MD3060P automatic transmission, and a Western Hauler bed for towing Momma's little home away from home!

Bob's misfortune could be a nice twin for mine with a little work (and a Cummins to replace the "scaterpillar"!). Let us know if he's getting rid of it Rob, I might be interested.

Scott

If I remember correctly, that truck was for sale by a museum in California for the price of $10k. Motor was running but stuck at the time of the ad (probably wouldn't take much to get free).

I was contemplating the possibilities of a crew cab mack truck, but never shelled out the $$$$$$.

I agree, nice looking Mack!

Scott

I have seen cancelled orders or model changes where the original serial number was crossed out on Mack's records and a notation was made of the cancellation or change of model for the order.

Scott

Here is one on eBay right now (actually, 5 of them!).

http://cgi.ebay.com/...ercialQ5fTrucks

I will stand my ground and say your kidding yourself on some of these assumptions..

You will have your opinion and I will have mine so we can agree to diagree..

I could fill the forum with similar stories and feelings from here, but why bother, it seems a pointless discussion.

If you dont want to accept that maybe there are some people working for the company that give a dam I am not bothered..

But then if I see something on the forum I might be able to help with I will ask myself why bother...

Register c,

Would you say you have a majority voice in the policy and direction that Volvo takes in it's business model? Do you have a say in the marketing plan for future investment and profitability of the company? Are you a key stakeholder that provides direction to the CEO? Or are you a cog in the machine that believes in what you do (rightly, and with fervor), who is caught in a catch 22 with no other options?

If you can say yes to any of these questions, then I understand where you are coming from. If you say no to all of the above, then I say quit fooling yourself as you are not fooling anyone on this forum. You have not provided anything of substance to this board, you have not provided sage advice to get someone out of a jamb and back on the road, you have merely proffered your opinion that there is more to Volvo than meets the eye (or stock dividend). This is the wrong board to hang your hat on "Mother Volvo" and preach that all is well and good.

A number of people on this forum have been forecasting the demise of Mack, just as Brockway, Diamond T and others have gone away due to business models. It is a fact a business, but it doesn't make it any more pleasant or palatable. Mack has a proud history, with dare I say proud owners, mechanics, users, drivers, and admirers... It is unpleasant to watch the bumblings of Volvo destroy such a REPUTATION. It is sickening to watch the shackles applied to a company that catered to (or should I say, bent over backwards to SATISFY) its customers and their desire to build the perfect truck to their "one off" application (although that "one off" helped build market share and penetration, look that one up in your business model textbooks).

If you are pissed at the responses you have received and don't care to help, then don't. But don't act like a spoiled child and mope in the corner. Provide some technical input, some valuable knowledge and contribute! Life is too short to allow a thin skin to keep you out of the mix and enjoy the company. Jump in, have some fun and kill some time...you might learn a little more about subjects that have no relation to trucks (or motorcycles), but may be even more beneficial to you in the long run.

Scott

Pat McPhail (sp?), (aka MackLTH) is pretty knowledgeable on these trucks. He has had a couple of related columns published in the Wheels of Time.

I have a couple B models with L model cabs, but I haven't been able to glean too much information from the internet on this series. Good luck in your quest!

Scott

That reminds me of a story-completely true by the way. I picked up a load of structural steel at Montague-Betts in Lynchburg one time going to Boston. I threw my chains across the load and climbed up on top to make sure they were placed right, and saw a dead possum laying on a beam, already swelled up. I stopped up at the Tye River Truckstop and backed up to the edge of the parking lot and found a long stick. Then I climbed back on the trailer to get the possum off. However he fell down through a hole in the beam and landed on the beam below. So I proceeded to deliver him to Boston with the steel. That job was just a dropyard, we'd drop a load there and just get an empty trailer and go, but I wish I could have seen the iron workers reaction when they found that possum. A true possum story.

Now other dog, you be careful throwing them chains. Here's some photos circulating 'round the internet email... It's a crying shame.

Scott

Steel cord in them tires didn't stand a chance...

and the smoking gun...

I think I'll cry some too.

Greg, I think James sums it up for all of us. Nothin fancy, from the heart, with meaning. My thoughts & prayers.

Scott

I would try to buy it, or one like it if the right one came along. I wouldn't mind helping the unknown owner clean up his field at all.

I am kinda partial to that old truck as well. It's located in Eastern Washington state. I have the owners name and number; he moved to Montana. Not sure if it is still there or if it's for sale, but if you are interested, PM me.

Scott

Mike & Larry,

I saw it as a resource for people instead of the $10 a page sales on eBay. The power of the internet has saved me a bunch of money over the years and I'm always looking for avenues to same me (and those who have a similar interest) a little coin. Doesn't appear that too many large trucks are there, but it may be of interest to people...

I know Barry posted the mix a paint shop ginned up for the color under an overspeed dash plate and have rounded up a few other codes on the forums. Thanks for the ideas & offers,

Scott

I was looking at paint and primers for my truck (it's getting pretty confusing with all the options out there). I came across a historical paint chip library at DuPont.

The link is

DuPont Historical Color Chip Library

I haven't found the color chips for Mack trucks yet, but did find the colors for a Coca-Cola truck!

Let me know if you find the right pages for our old Mack trucks, and better yet, post them!

Scott

Hi Rob,

Yep, no whining, but the growling has started!

The snow got me off guard this year, I normally have the old dog in the shop out of the elements. Not that it's any warmer in there, but at least it would have been dry.

Best for you and yours this holiday season!

Scott

got us a bit of snow and artic cold here in Washington State, but this dog ain't whining!

Although my lab sure tucks her tail when it's time to head out!

Have a safe one,

Scott