Mack58B42

Ahhh...... I thought I had seen it somewhere before.  Didn't think that it might've been HERE, lol.

There are also a few videos of it posted on youtube.  Here's one, and it will lead you to the rest: 

Still disappointed that it'll be going somewhere other than my driveway.

That came out great!!  

I know that eventually I'm going to run across something that I probably shouldn't buy, and buy it (am half-heartedly looking for a single axle dump truck with a Diesel), but I use it mostly to peruse the country a couple times a week to see what turns up for B-models that I can add to the B-Model registry.....

But it's certainly tempting to see all the nice older rigs that are out there, and if I did have a little more in my bank account, it might not last long!  It's probably also a good thing that I don't have a lot of flat land suitable for storing old trucks, or then I'd REALLY be in trouble!

11 hours ago, Phase 1 said:

Here are the numbers.

C-Series

                                C607            1963-1965        301

                                C609            1963-1965     1,064

                                C611            1963-1965          16

                                C615            1963-1965        208

 

Ahhh, so it WAS pretty limited.  So probably won't be east to find one at a reasonable price, if at all....

I use Search Tempest.  It can be a bit temperamental sometimes, but it's the one I like best.....

http://www.searchtempest.com/ 

Are the Cs fairly rare?  I've only just seen pics of them.  I like them, and if I could find a driver for a reasonable price, I'd certainly consider scooping one up....

I agree with James.  I know that artwork, like restored trucks, can be hard to recover for all the time put into them, but this is nice work, and I think that you could charge something for them to at least cover some of the time that you put into them.....

Mike

Wow - that's an incredible combination, and obviously in fantastic condition!!  Do you have a plan for it?

That's a beauty!!

1 hour ago, mrgumby said:

was it heading toward 146

Westerly is in Southern RI, about an hour south of 146.  I'm thinking it probably came south, so it might have passed by that area on its way down.

It was headed south on Rt 3, so it likely got off 95 in Hopkinton and, if that's the case, there'd really be no other place for it to be going except Westerly.  West of that is CT, and there would be more direct ways to get there other than coming through Hopkinton/Westerly.  So, unless they were horribly lost, I'm assuming that it came South down 95 (if they were going north, then it WOULD have made sense to come in via CT), got off at Exit 1 in RI, and that its terminus would be in the Westerly area.....

I'll be keeping an eye out for it as the weather gets better (IF it ever gets better!)  And most people who know me know that I'm a B-model nut, so if it's here, someone will mention it to me eventually.

I looked up Matthews and Sons, and couldn't find anything in PA.  He might have mis-read it, but he's pretty good at spotting old iron and noting any useful info about it.  He also said he thought the hauler was Levine, or Levin, but he wasn't quite as sure about that, and a search of that name from PA to New England didn't really turn up anything either.

A friend who knows of my Mack illness just called to tell me he saw an Aqua colored B-model tractor being hauled on a flatbed into Westerly, RI from a direction that would indicate it had come off Rt 95 and would be being delivered somewhere in the Westerly area.

Says it was an Aqua color, similar to the B-model interior color, and thinks it said "Matthews and Sons, Pittsburgh, PA" for lettering.  Looked like a museum quality restoration.

Anyone here know what that might be and who snagged it?

Mike

5 hours ago, DailyDiesel said:

Came across this pair in Herkimer County this past summer. Trucks from the line of both Mack and International.

And you just left them there?!?!  :-)

Normally, I'm a spoke guy, but I think that with the flat side body you have, and the chrome super singles on the front, it's a much better look.....

I'm partial to that Superliner!

Randy,

#37097 on the B-Model registry is listed as a 1961 as are a couple others right around it, so that seems right.  But eddeere is correct - for a reasonable donation, the Mack Museum will send you an information packet with all the data they have on your truck.

If you'd like to list yours on the B-Model Registry, and see what else from that time-frame is on there, go to http://www.mackb-modelregistry.com/b-model-registry, and you can fill in the form and e-mail it back to me, or just e-mail whatever data about the truck you're comfortable having "out there" (including pics of course!)

And, we'll need to see some pics as well.  It's what we live for here!

Mike

Hmmm.....  If that wasn't half a country away, I might make an offer on it.....

But it looks to be in pretty good shape.  I would imagine it won't be around long.

On 3/9/2017 at 8:06 AM, fxfymn said:

One of Clarence Farrar's specials? We had one in my home town of Ashland, MA that I cut my teeth on. A 68 Loadstar, 345 V8 and 5 speed tranny with the usual Farrar front mount pump, 500 gallon tank. The guy who taught me to drive it told me "Anybody can drive this, the transmission is synchronized." A comment that was no doubt driven by the 46 Mack LS85 which many folks had a really hard time driving due to the usual non-synchronous tranny.

 They also had a 57 F-750, and at one time a 46 Ford. Farrar sold a lot of fire trucks in New England, especially to those communities that were "cost conscious".

It is, in fact, a Farrar!  My neighbor and good friend bought it because his grandfather had spec'd and purchased the truck when it was new and he was the chief.

Everything in Robert B. Marvin's Mack Apparatus book also points to it being a B Early Series truck....  And a 707 would have been an available option for it.  I think that motor was also known as the AP motor, so perhaps that's where that number in the S/N comes from....

It does appear to be a Cincinnati rig.  According to the "Motorized Apparatus of Cincinatti" website, here's what they show:  6AP6S 1061 1935 Mack    750    100   25146    En 46     IS 4-29-35

Here's a link to that site if you want to check it out: http://www.cfdhistory.com/htmls/apparatus.html 

So, it matches your s/n, but they show that it and its twins, 1059, 1060, and 1062 were all purchased in 1935, just a tad later than you thought.  And it served as Engine 46 going in service in 4/29/35 (so it may be a 1934 on the paperwork), and was a 750gpm pumper with a 100 gallon tank.  The site notes that the number 25146 is the "shop number".  It's the only one of the four that it notes that for, so I wonder if this one was modified by Cincinnati's shop after delivery, or if that's Mack's build number.

As Brocky and 1958 F.W.D note, the Mack museum can offer you all the relevant info on your truck based on the serial number, including all the specs, delivery sheets, pics, and any other information that they might have on it.....

Anyway - it's a beautiful truck.

Below are a picture of the truck in service (it's only a thumbnail and a bit blurry - sorry) (in the center), the station that it was housed in when new (top), and a shot of Engine 31, which, although I can't verify it, I think is one of the other 3 trucks purchased by Cincinnati at the same time as yours (bottom)....

You've got more Macks than pretty much anybody - you can't disappear!!

Hopefully someone can get your technical issue resolved.....

That would make sense - notice that the same number 547 is on both radiator grills in white decals....

2 hours ago, Brocky said:

I believe that Omaha Orange was one of the first "Safety Colors" after Red fire trucks. A lot of municipal vehicles were painted that color..

Yeah, I think that up until a recent switch, that's pretty close to the color that RI DOT used for all their highway trucks....

All beauties!!  Thanks for the pics!

Well, you won't lose it in a parking lot, will you?