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That outlet temp looks suspicious to me. Usually, not always, but usually when I see that the outlet temp is that much higher than the inlet I find the filter is clogged. Especially if it ran for awhile with the gunked up doser. 

So, the soot level will reset for you manually? 

Oh HELL NO! I'd be super ticked off. As others have said, take it higher up. Still under warrantee you shouldn't have to pay a dime! 

The dealership I worked for I personally witnessed charging the customer, then filing warrantee for the repair and getting paid twice for the same job. There are some shady shops out there. 

I'm wondering if they missed something with the head, air compressor maybe? 

If they can't replace an egr cooler without everything leaking, I probably would find another dealer. 

Those paint pen markings don't necessarily mean it's been into before. I've been seeing them on rockers that I know for a fact have never been touched. 

I've been seeing so many leaking cups lately that I've gotten really really lazy, to the point where if I don't see an obvious sign of the fuel system sucking air, I crack the fuel return at the head and if there is foamy fuel coming out, I go after cups. 

I'm sure it'll bite me in the ass at some point but the last 10 or so I've done, cups have been the culprit. 

Nothing to see here! 

Please delete, I fixed the problem. 

Thank you guys so much! This is the best place for reliable info, and I try to share a little knowledge here and there when I can. I've been to Chicago a few times for training, once back in 07 or 08 for the mp engines, but didn't ever end up digging into them deep on my own til several years later. By then I had pretty much forgotten most of what I learned lol. And it wasn't like the old days (90's) when I left with stacks of manuals! 

Mack sure didn't have a problem taking $1500 bucks for impact, but they sure aren't any help getting me the login info! Talked to 3 different people at support and got nowhere. I'll try them again Monday morning. 

Thanks again! 

Thanks Joey, I can see it. I figured the washers were to align the head, but I want to make sure I wasn't missing something. No fear with the gear train, I've done several mp7s, but they are dowel so this thru me off a little. First head I've ever seen on any engine I've rebuilt that didn't have dowels! And that's pretty much every engine under the hood of a truck for the last 25 years lol. 

We purchased impact to get this info, but for whatever reason Mack hasn't sent the login info yet and I'd like to go ahead and get this head set. 

There is a rubber seal on these at the gear plate, not replaceable. It still seems intact, do you add silicone around it for good measure? 

Since Mack apparently doesn't make actual repair manuals anymore... 😡 

Looking for the torque spec for a 2019 mp8. Also I notice the 8 doesn't have dowel pins for the head?? Anything I should need to know about that? Or just slap some silicone on the timing plate, set the head, draw it back and torque it? 

Thanks for any help! 

On 9/30/2022 at 4:48 PM, Onyx610 said:

You won’t be getting a response from Mack Technician…unfortunately. 

What happened to MT? 

I'd bet my next paycheck on junk in a banjo fitting. I see it on a regular basis. 

Rocker bolt number is 21269038

Dang. I usually have that on the tip of my tongue, but I'm seeing fewer of them these days. I've got it at the shop. If you don't get it before morning I'll let you know. Were they tight? 

Now yall got me following this one 😂 

Almost sounds at this point as if it has to be a pushrod issue, or something crazy with the rocker itself. I'm assuming the rocker bolts aren't broken or backed off? Bent pushrod? I've seen valve seats change valve adjustments pretty quick, but they go the other way, and the lash gets tighter. 

I'm putting my money on rocker bolts, but then again I would think it would have broken the rocker shaft by now. 

I see a lot of AI engines with all 12 solid yokes, but Almost always garbage trucks. But they will even run that setup in thier roll offs with manual trans. 

4 hours ago, Joey Mack said:

Man I'm glad I got out of the Dealership when I did... I dont have patience for the B.S.  in these new engines..  I would like to think that building them would create better mechanic's,  but.....   anyway...  glad im away from Volvo's... jojo

I'll tell ya, I'm about over it. Too young to retire, don't know how to do anything else and make anywhere near the money. But damn I miss working on an aset most of the time. Now it's mainly mp' s, cummins, paccar (pure junk) and international. 

I remember when the etech came out thinking how complicated it was 😂 

Those were the days! 

The plug is there just to cap off the hole that was created when they drilled for the fuel gallery. Like jojo said, if it were put in correctly the first time, which most are, you'd never have a leak there. I've just gotten in the habit of resealing them whenever I have the front cover off. 

😂 I was getting ready to scream DO NOT PUT THAT THING TOGETHER 😂 

My knowledge has been ceramic lifters required spring loaded rods. 

We had one a couple months ago that had steel, dealer sent us ceramic, and swore that's what it called for. Turned out there was something they missed option wise when ordering the parts. The camshaft was a different part number as well, so I'm assuming a steel roller cam is different than ceramic roller cam. 

Mack used to sell a magnet kit to hold the lifters up. That's what I have and they are priceless! Not sure they are still available. And the cam shoe is also well worth the money. No more having an assistant under the engine with a wooden handle to help guide it in. 

Make sure you reseal that fuel plug while you're there with the front cover off! I've seen many leak. 

13 minutes ago, Joey Mack said:

wow, that is amazing..  before common rail came around, , I used a very long 3/8" extension that I welded together, and a swivel at the end with the barring tool on it wrapped in electrical tape to keep it in place plus a wrap of electrical tape around the extention where it goes right by the starter, so I dont arc off it..  and it goes all the way up front, so I can roll the engine and see the marks on the front of the cam..  I literally, stayed right there in one place, and I placed magnets on the engine to hold my feeler gauges and wrenches..  of course my set up is crude, but if my phone battery dies, I can still finish running the rack,,,    jojo

😂 That's awesome. I mean how dumb is it that we need 2 people to run the valves? Luckily I always have somebody who's more than willing to take a nap under the truck for me. 

29 minutes ago, Mackpro said:

I use a Bluetooth snake camera looking at my camshaft marks . I can zoom in on my phone while turning the engine over to see the marks. Works great. 

I just use an old fashioned magnifying glass lol. My eyes suck these days anyway. 

This one had a miss on number 4,good compression, no electrical faults. So I'm replacing number 4 injector and hoping for the best. I'd be 100% confident on the older mp's, but still learning the common rail ones. 

Thank you sir. These are etched as well! 

Good work Volvo. Not! 

I can't seem to find this info anywhere but is the valve, brake and injector adjustment the same for the common rail mp8 as the older ones? Minus adjusting 3 of the injectors obviously.... 

The only 3 things I've run into over the years are eup's, injector caps, and fuel pump seal. 

I've been waiting 2 1/2 weeks for support to call me back about changing the email on my account. 

I've called twice, they just say they are busy and somebody will eventually get to me. 

My password expired a few weeks ago with the mandatory change, I never knew anything about a mandatory change I guess because the old email we set up with years ago is no longer in use. 

So since I can't get into the email they have on file, they must change the email on our account. They are supposed to be calling me to verify my info, but almost 3 weeks now?! Are they that busy?! This is killing me having to use a bosch scanner in the meantime. It's going to bite me soon when I need to do something the bosch won't do! 

13 minutes ago, Onyx610 said:

Thanks for letting us know!

Always! I've been working on mack engines for almost 30 years, used to be the easiest but Volvo has really done some head scratching engineering. Maybe at the top of the list, well Paccar is right up there with them.