linmac Posted April 7, 2009 Share Posted April 7, 2009 I am in the final stages of restoring my B85F Ladder Truck. I am anxious to find out about the pin-striping. I have a guy who is capable of painting it on, but it appears to me that in the States there may be a company that sells this stuff as transfers. Things like scrolls and ensignias and straight lines in the original gold leaf style. When we soda blasted the paint of the truck the pin-striping and lettering that was on it was transfers. Can anyone help, we information as to were I might be able to buy these letters and pin-striping? Regards Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firemack Posted April 8, 2009 Share Posted April 8, 2009 Graham,Your truck was most likely gold leafed at the Mack Factory. Then the local gold leaf striper would add more details after it was delivered. They did not use any transfers on the B model Macks. There are scrolls that were standard , the "Mack" lettering on the rear was standard. The rest of the gold leaf and lettering was determined by the customer. There are templates for the scrolls and Mack lettering that our local gold leaf guy has, and since you are down under, I am pretty sure he would let your guy use them.Firemack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linmac Posted April 16, 2009 Author Share Posted April 16, 2009 Graham,Your truck was most likely gold leafed at the Mack Factory. Then the local gold leaf striper would add more details after it was delivered. They did not use any transfers on the B model Macks. There are scrolls that were standard , the "Mack" lettering on the rear was standard. The rest of the gold leaf and lettering was determined by the customer. There are templates for the scrolls and Mack lettering that our local gold leaf guy has, and since you are down under, I am pretty sure he would let your guy use them.FiremackFiremack, Many thanks for the reply. Is there some way I can contact your guy direct? My Ladder truck was first delivered to The Town of Tonawanda NY Brighton. According to the photos sent to me by the Mack Museum, it had Town Of Tonawanda on the side on both sides, it had an insigna on both doors indicating the number 5 and it had BRIGHTON on the hood, we call it the bonnet. Also, you wouldn't know where I could get two axes? Mine did not come with the original axes. Regards Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted April 16, 2009 Share Posted April 16, 2009 pin striping and gold leafing is a lost art. I bought some brushes and played around with some ideas but am not ready to do work on someones truck. Best advice is ask some local hot rodders if they know of a local pin stripe guy. Hard to find but they are out there. alot of these guys can do the gold leaf as well.Good luckTrent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linmac Posted April 17, 2009 Author Share Posted April 17, 2009 pin striping and gold leafing is a lost art. I bought some brushes and played around with some ideas but am not ready to do work on someones truck. Best advice is ask some local hot rodders if they know of a local pin stripe guy. Hard to find but they are out there. alot of these guys can do the gold leaf as well.Good luckTrentYou're right, pin striping is almost a lost art. I do have a really good pin stripe guy but he is not confident with the gold leafing. I guess I'll get him to do a sample to see what I think. Regards Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lmackattack Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 also some of the biker painters are doing up some old school bikes with some sort of new type of gold leaf. I dont know what it is but I have seen it on a few choppers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firemack Posted April 17, 2009 Share Posted April 17, 2009 Graham,My contact is Danny Danz, P.O. Box 172 Woxall, PA 18979. Phone 215-234-8916. He is always busy so you might be best to write him a letter to describe what you need. I attached a picture of the work he did on our truck, You can see the gold leaf and the swirl in the gold if you look closely. I am a member of Spaamfaa http://www.spaamfaa.com/, and attended SPAAMFAA meetings that teach how to do goldleaf if you cannot find anyone down under that still does gold leaf. Here is another guy that I have seen his work, but have not met him personally. He is also well known.http://www.firegold.com/fire.htmI am attending a Spaamfaa Fire flea market this Sunday in Allentown not far from the Mack factory. If you still need the 2 axes, I am sure I can find 2 for sale. I think they go for around $25-40 dollars each. Let me know.Send me email to let me know if you need specific help.Firemack Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
linmac Posted April 20, 2009 Author Share Posted April 20, 2009 Graham,My contact is Danny Danz, P.O. Box 172 Woxall, PA 18979. Phone 215-234-8916. He is always busy so you might be best to write him a letter to describe what you need. I attached a picture of the work he did on our truck, You can see the gold leaf and the swirl in the gold if you look closely. I am a member of Spaamfaa http://www.spaamfaa.com/, and attended SPAAMFAA meetings that teach how to do goldleaf if you cannot find anyone down under that still does gold leaf. Here is another guy that I have seen his work, but have not met him personally. He is also well known.http://www.firegold.com/fire.htmI am attending a Spaamfaa Fire flea market this Sunday in Allentown not far from the Mack factory. If you still need the 2 axes, I am sure I can find 2 for sale. I think they go for around $25-40 dollars each. Let me know.Send me email to let me know if you need specific help.FiremackI would be very greatfull for two axes. If you are able to get them please let me know the cost and I will forward a bank draft to cover the cost of them and shipping. I am very appreciative of your help. Regards Graham Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allison Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 (edited) Linmack, I recently had my B85F tiller truck lettered and we used Dale Snyder of Macungie. Dale worked for mack from 1966 to 1984 when they stopped producing fire trucks. All dale did was gold leaf fire trucks he would be the guy to talk to.. also i dont know anyone that can gold leaf better than dale.. he is the mack gold leaf master!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Edited June 24, 2009 by Allison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allison Posted June 24, 2009 Share Posted June 24, 2009 Linmack, I recently had my B85F tiller truck lettered and we used Dale Snyder of Macungie. Dale worked for mack from 1966 to 1984 when they stopped producing fire trucks. All dale did was gold leaf fire trucks he would be the guy to talk to.. also i dont know anyone that can gold leaf better than dale.. he is the mack gold leaf master!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Hatfield Posted June 29, 2009 Share Posted June 29, 2009 There is a man in Jackson Mi who can make the scolls as a decal or vinyl. His name is Ken Soderbeck. his website is http://www.personal.umich.edu/~oates/restore/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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