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I have a lot of dyed diesel sitting around, any chemist's out there who know how to distill that dye out? Oh on second thought the tax man's probably watching this so never mind😉

Dyed diesel here is cheeper than gasoline 

4 hours ago, 67RModel said:

The more I research this the more and more I think these Rolls powered Internationals were Canadian manufactured only. The one in the video was manufactured at International's Hamilton Ontario plant. I can't find any information that these were installed in American made trucks....

That's the International truck video I mentioned earlier. It would make sense as this video and his YouTube channel is all based in Canada, Ontario I think 

The tag on the starter should say what voltage it is unless its been removed

Put 24 volt and see it works, it would sound like its running unusually fast if its too much voltage for it.  

Really only 2 or 3 democratic counties in my state depending on the year. Thankfully they live on the opposite side

1985 so it's the same pattern as an eaton 9 speed. But would it be better for the transmission to shift it like the new pattern or should I stick with the old one?

Hope that makes more sense, Thanks

Edit: Oops Its not the same as the eaton 9 speed, the 3,4 and 7,8 are switched on the mack 

Might be a dumb question but there are two different shift patterns for the Mack 9 speed, did they change anything mechanically when they changed this? Ive driven the old pattern of 9 speed but should I be shifting it in the new pattern? If you can change how you shift in the pattern then what the difference between a 10 speed and a 9 speed?  Its probably all in the high low shift box but what's is best for this transmission? Thanks 

The C9's are good but its the C9S that are junk. They rushed into the new emission's with common rail and variable geometry turbo which caused a the whole thing to be unreliable. In addition they're also very hard and odd to work on, they have a gear driven air compressor that has to be timed for some reason. 

On 3/31/2022 at 12:25 PM, Makeri_Driver said:

From my use the 3208 is the worst Cat engine ever made and probably one of the worst diesel engines ever made! 

Ever heard of the Cat C9S? That is the worst cat engine ever made, last one's were made a decade ago and already you don't see them anymore.

The non turbo 3208's make great boat anchors but the Turbocharged and after cooled one's are pretty snazzy for there day. Have one in a 1987 Wanderlodge that starts and runs better than any old cummins. 

On 4/10/2022 at 10:46 AM, james j neiweem said:

In reading this thread it seems that Signal ultimately failed Mack. Signal took all of Macks profits for the benefit of Signal and not Mack. Mack should not have sold out to Signal which led to Macks ultimate demise. -Signal/Renault/Volvo. Also it seems that Kenworth benefited greatly from the Hayes aquisition which Mack was never able to bring to fruition.

Thats what happens with most acquisitions. They buy when times are good and leave the company to do its business, but as soon as time's get rocky funding gets pulled and companies shut down. All part of cut throat business practices 

On 3/27/2022 at 5:36 PM, BOB DINGSDALE said:

 275 ROLLLS-ROYCE diesels 5+3 trans and 4640- TIMKEN rear ends, 12:00x24 tires.

Did I hear you right? I did't know you could get a Rolls-Royce that late In the game. Ive seen one International truck with one from the 50s but that was it. 

Its the "Pollution Control" 

Man every 30 minutes?! I bet you're getting horrid fuel economy but it could be the engines fault in that its pouring in too much fuel and thus creating more black smoke (soot) but I'd think this would have thrown a code if an injectors bad or something. Best of luck 

Update: So I went back and looked again and it looks like most if not all of the articles were done by Barry at the beginning,  so if you want B model stuff

ask him and see if he still has it.

Also this sight goes back way farther than I would have guessed, This is it in 2002! 

Yeah Ive tried contacting several people but to no avail, also tried the way back machine but the links were dead there too 

They seem to not come up for sale that often and the auctions can be a bit hard to find so this here's the best place to look for one. Let us know if you find one, they're my favorite of all the Mack trucks! 

Those stack's on there make that thing look mean! What all do you haul now? 

Does the econovance ever have much problems to the point it won't run? I think I've heard of the wiring to them going bad but I've never heard of one mechanically busting. 

Anyone know what kinda fuel economy I could get? Its a daycab so I'd think it would be pretty good. 

How many miles is the route? Check and see if there's much black smoke, you could be over fueling but I doubt that would make a 17 gallon difference. Park it in a parking lot or find some cement to see if you have any leaks. Good luck 

The wiki section is messed up for me too. All dead links it seems 

Shame its a single axle but looks like a clean truck! Is that shift knob for a 9 speed? It looks like its a 12 or more speed knob and with the amount of lines going to it.

What Year did they go to all electronic E7? The one Im looking at has the Inline pump

Been seeing a Mack ch613 parked by my house for the last couple of months now and Im wondering if I should go ask about it. It's a 1996 with a 13 speed Mack transmission not sure on miles or any of that. With the price of fuel a more fuel efficient truck would be nice, but not sure if that would balance out the $1000 a year for tag that we don't have to pay with our other truck. What price should it be worth? What are some things I should look for? Ive never owned an E7 before so what do I need to know? Thanks!