Neo

Is the cs200p engine a wet sleeve or dry sleeve

Is the engine in the mackidliner cs200p a wet sleeve or dry sleeve

Can the hraudraulic portion be converted to full air brakes 

2 hours ago, kscarbel2 said:

Here's the specific info again...........https://www.motul.com/ca/en-US/products/oils-lubricants/dot-3-4-brake-fluid?f[application]=144&f[range]=25

Cool.....thanks much

15 hours ago, kscarbel2 said:

No, the "secret" is to switch the truck over to Motul synthetic brake fluid, as I mentioned earlier.

Ok ill look for that brand specifically....same 4dot right

6 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DOT_4

Lol thanks.....I'll search for dot 4 when I have some time to shop around.....but it seems the secret is to change brake fluid very regular

On 9/15/2016 at 0:09 PM, bbigrig said:

Too expensive to convert.  It can be done, but you would be better off and cheaper buying a used 250 or 300 series Midliner which would have full air brakes already.

I hardly see these trucks in my country and I'm getting this one at a great deal that's why I'm buying it.... Plus the odometer hear only 75000 on it.. Don't know much about that engine though....I just know it's a Renault 6.7L

On 9/15/2016 at 8:32 PM, kscarbel2 said:

Glad we could help. We aim to please.

A CS200P has air-over-hydraulic brakes........wheel cylinders front and rear. When maintained properly, it's a great system. Make no mistake about that. But when ill-maintained, wheel cylinders are expensive. Use Motul, and you'll have "above average" longevity.

In Europe, they use synthetic brake fluid. But we at Mack years ago were afraid that U.S. customers would accidentally mix ordinary DOT 4 with synthetic fluid. You can just picture it happening. So we filled US market Mid-Liners with DOT 4. You needed to flush the system periodically to rid the accumulated moisture, but most MS/CS 200 customers didn't. So we sold a lot of wheel cylinders. The full-air brake MS/CS250P resolved all this, and customers like Penske and Ryder purchased thousands and thousands.

Don't even ponder changing it over to full-air brakes like the CS250P and CS300P/T. It would be much too costly.

Ok now I'm getting nervous....I've never seen a dot 4 brake fluid..... Only dot 3 and that they say is fit heavy duty trucks.... Many mechanics told me it's easy to use the front of another truck to convert to full air brakes....And is hit up a type of brake fluid.....never heard of that one ....And when u say maintain properly....u mean just bleed the brake ave change fluid regular along with brake pads....And does air over hydraulic simply mean fluid for the front brakes and air for the rear brakes.....

General question...... Does the brake fluid acts as the clutch fluid like in other trucks where u pour the fluid in one reservoir and it acts as both brake and clutch fluid

On 6/12/2016 at 3:42 AM, mrsmackpaul said:

Neo welcome mate 

 

A while ago a fella was on here asking for parts and Mack stuffed him around he gave us the part number and just punched it in and the parts were easy to come by over seas and in the US they are a great little truck I reckon 

 

Paul

Thank u for the welcome...... Loving the advice I'm getting.....I'm from the Caribbean though....do u think parts can be available here.....the only thing I see the truck needs right now is one king pin and bushing...... 

On 6/12/2016 at 3:25 AM, kscarbel2 said:

Neo, the truck is superb. But I don't know about spare parts availability from Volvo (who owns Mack now). I'm concerned that pricing might be.....shocking. That's your primary issue.

In a perfect world, finding a CS250P would be better because it has full air brakes. The CS200P has air-over-hydraulic. Otherwise, they're basically the same truck. Both trucks would have an 8,000lb front axle, but rear axle options were 18,000lb and 21,000lb. I'm guessing your truck has an 18,000lb rear axle.

If you bleed the brakes annually to purge moisture and trash, you'll be fine. But if you don't, those Lockheed wheel cylinders are very expensive.

If I bought the truck, I'd flush out all the old fluid and refill with Motul synthetic brake fluid (but be sure to refill with same when required). That goes for the hydraulic clutch master and slave cylinder system too.

http://www.trucksplanet.com/photo/mack/mid-liner_cs/mid-liner_cs_k362.pdf

https://www.motul.com/ca/en-US/products/oils-lubricants/dot-3-4-brake-fluid?f[application]=144&f[range]=25

 

Thank u so much for your advise .... Means alot believe me..... And about the brake fluid thanks for that advice too.... I'm that close to getting the truck just waiting on the bank to approve..... Yes it is hydraulic brakes at the front..... But can't it be converted to full ait brakes....if so how can it be done and what do I need

Hey guys.....just reading your post and I'm about to buy that same truck cs200p...... Can the front brakes be converted to air brakes.....is the Renault engine reliable and strong...

On 27/11/2007 at 8:05 PM, fjh said:

I will third the duability thing a midliner is a fine unit if maintained.

I'm thinking about getting a 1994 cs200p.... It's very challenging getting info from the internet about the truck.... But the truck only has 80000km.... And the price is great..... 

Do you think it's a great idea to get it based on the miles on it