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For some reason I doubt that was produced in 1933. I would check the chassis records on that. Wouldnt that be a bulldog from the 20s?

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Old Iron Expert, Is that radiator of yours for a early B, like a BG or newer B Model?

I ended up buying one from ETSY. Generally Called a battle Lantern. Here is our refurbished version.

I wrote this some time ago wih no response, but still hopeful someone might have an answer.

This rod was connected to the exhaust manifold, which when moved would pre-heat the gas/air mix in the intake manifold. Does anyone know where the other end would have gone? The only place I can find that might work would be onto the throttle linkage, but that seems obsurd to me.

If anyone has any knowledge of this system, please let me know.

Thanks again for everyone intelligence and help getting the old girl up to snuff!

Here is another question to all the Mack Folks,

This is a rod that connects at one end to the exhaust manifold for the pre-heater baffle, redirecting exhust gases into the intake. The other end has been detached, and letting the rod flop around inside the engine compartment for as long as anyone can recall. Where does the other end attach to that indicates "On-Heat-Off"?

The only place I can think of is on this brass piece of the accelerator linkage where this spring is. But really to the accelorator linkage?

Anyone have an idea as to what the torque spec might be for the valve covers? I looked through the shop manual and could not find any indication. I believe when the manifold comes back to the welder, a safe torque of 40 lbs should be adequate. Thanks again!

Well I have not posted in a while and I thought I should provide an update. A few of us have taken off the exhaust and intake manifolds. They are currently at the welder being repaired for cracks and broken flanges. Attached are some pictures of the current state of the engine compartment. I am starting to put it back together with all parts cleaned and painted. The carburetor is all cleaned up nice inside and out. Thankfully we were able to save the old gasket, since trying to find rebuild kit for a Stromberg SF-3 does not exist. The gaskets from Olsen's came in and we ready for the manifolds! I will post some pictures of the completed carburator later. I figured I should put pictures up since not to often someone posts pictures of what is under the hood.

Well this piece is still owned by the fire district. Since the Mack turns 80 this year, myself and another guy on the department are going through it to make it a nice piece for parades, funerals, etc. I have this thought in mind to try and get it mechanically solid before something goes totally wrong, or the wrong hands try to fix something they have no clue about. Its been a great research challenge.

Hopefully we can get a paint job sooner then later. Apparently it was painted in the early 70s. Sadly all of the gold stripping is covered. But, to me that is stage two.

Tires will be necessary soon, since they are rather dryrot. It seems no one wants to touch split rims these days.

On the side I have been trying to determine what came with the truck. So far so good. If you know of any images of what those Mack extinguishers I would greatly appreciate to see it. Also, trying to figure out what tools came with it. I see some posts about what came on the Bulldog models, but not any relative to the early Bs.

As promised, here are more pictures of the Mack. We have installed the magneto and it runs good on that system alone. The electric lantern came in. I gave it a good cleaning and a new coat of paint. Tooled new leather straps for the leather handle since it was well beyond repair. Have two B7 type batteries coming form Interstate Battery next week. I have also included images of the pump suction caps. you can see that one of the handles is gone. The oil bucket is there and a extinguisher. Sadly not one of the originals.

If I only had the time to get down to PA this weekend! Too much to do prior to a cruise.

I have seen the posts about the Mack in Europe restored by Cal. I havnt seen much photo documentation on it though.

Oh..one more thought. Does anyone know what the original oil can that was in the engine compartment looked like? There is a VFD restoring one in Arizona and it appears to be nickel plated. I am not sure if that a stand in or the original.

Thanks Again All!

I want to first thank everyone for the great effort from everyone to provide me with information. I greatly appreciate it.

Thankfully we have both suction caps for the pump. One of them seems is broken though with one of the nodes broken off. Too bad that piece isnt around to get welded on. Oh well.

I looked into the website with the Barnstable pictures. They have one that is very close to our configuration. It appears they have a different pump and extra suction hose at first glance. When I am out that direction I will be sure to check it out. I believe that Lunenburg, near Fitchburg, MA has one as well. It appears on the chassis register to be 9 numbers newer.

As for what we still have is the two playing nozles, the strainer and roof ladder. The smaller nozzles may be around. We also need one additional fire extinguisher holder. If anyone knows of one please let me know. I will attach pictures of everything soon. If anyone is aware of a two fly 24 foot wood ladder let me know. That we are missing as well, but we do have the roof ladder.

My father and i had some old fashion bonding time working on getting the magneto cleaned up and maintained. Now the old Bosch is throwing spark like a champ. See attached photo.

I guess the first question is, am I correct that the lamp, lantern or flashlight on the drivers side made by Harris Brothers? Here is an example of what I think it is.

Good Morning All!

I am new to this forum, hopefully looking to get some answers to some of the many questions I have. My name is Dan and I am on the Three Rivers Fire Department in Three Rivers, MA. Chasis number 6 BG 6S 1060. Lately I have taken the initiative to start getting our old Mack up to par. She still runs and drives in the parades, just as good as in September of 1933 when we first got her, but her appearance needs a little sprucing up. I have started doing some maintenance on our Bosch Magneto with Bill Lopoulos' Magneto Parts and got some new exhaust gaskets from Olsen Gaskets. Both make great products by the way and are very helpful.

What I have been really trying to find out is what the accessories were that came with the ol' girl. From the attached photos we received from the Mack Historical Museum, you can see a strainer, some couplings, extinguishers, hard suction hose, a lantern / flashlight and nozzles. This is how it looked right out of the factory! I wasn't sure what people had for information on these. I believe the lantern / flashlight is a Harris Bros. since they are the only company I have found to carry a version with a leather handle. I found a few examples online.

I have inquired with the Mack Historical Museum and sadly the accessories provide on the Type 50 BGs is lost to bad record archiving. All of the photos indicate they have most of the same accessory equipment. Perhaps someone out there has examples or can recall this lost-to-history information. Hell, it even looks like the extinguishers were plated with Mack on them, but I can’t find one single example. I have seen posts on here for tool sets that were provided for the Bulldog model, but I am not sure what our BG may have had.

One interesting thing I come to the conclusion was that the bulldog was not added until it reached the branch office, not at the factory as shown in the photos. Dale at the Mack Museum seems to agree.

I know this seems like an overload and a scatter shot of information, but its a start!

Thanks for all your knowledge, help and providing such a great research tool for us Mack Nubies!