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Well Last week was kind of a wash on work on the Midliner. Went to go pick up my daughter at School and 08 GMC HD3500 Duramax 4x4 was a no crank no start. So this had happened one time before when it was 2 months old and it was a faulty starter. But that was GMC's issue under warranty. But I checked starter relays and fuses and all worked or looked good. Replace starter (That really sucks on a 4x4 diesel hard) Pull old have tested (it's bad) replace. No crank no start, still check batteries cause I'm only seeing 12V on the gauge. Test both test "ok" But you have them test good but fail under load, so replace. Still no crank/no start. Check the Park /neutral safety switch on the Allison and that's good so I'm thinking its maybe ignition switch, and get the column apart and my ignition switch is much different than anything in the video's because my truck has the Factory remote start. So I pause, get my tester and check the 2 40amp fuses with the tester that look 100% intact visually and sure enough one is fried but not where you can see it.... Replace truck firers right up. So I think the fuse fried when the starter died, Awesome, bust out pressure washer clean up all the greasy hand prints off the truck after crawling under it in my yard, clean the truck and get in to move it "No crank no start" look at the 40amp fuse and its clearly fried. replace truck starts. Spend 2 more days tracing wires from the fuse block to the starter. Find that the waring harness cover loom as gone thru so many heat cycles that its literally crumbling in my hands. And I find the short where the purple wire was rubbing at the base of the steering box and had worn thru the wire coating. Seal the wire replace all the plastic wire loom covering with new, and put a 2nd larger over the 1st and zip tie the harness away from as many high heat spots and secure from it rubbing. And that really sucked having large hands but by Thursday of last week after 4 days everything was GTG. But majority of this was caused by GM's piss poor planning and wire harness routing from the factory.... Frustrating. On another note the 3 "Bibles" for my Mack MS200P came in the mail.... Damn, these break down everything on the truck. Thanks for telling me to look on Ebay! As for the Mack well Checked her out yesterday after hauling 10-900 Lbs. Hay rolls for my buddy's farm with the GMC and my trailer. His farm where my Mack is parked and I think I have come up with a name for this truck.... Everyone knows Christine a 56 Plymouth Fury, that would repair itself in the movie of same name. Well my Midliner is/has doing the same thing... This time the Tach that had not worked since I 1st started the truck started working yesterday when I started the truck. The truck has also "fixed its fuel gauge and its non working break lights... I think its just happy bring run and driven after laying dormant for so many years. So I may have to call my Midliner, Macksine...

Today was productive. Got the whole truck sprayed down and pressure washed today. Blasted a lot of the chipping paint off the box body and quite a bit of the decal residue off the sides and cab and it turned white again and not grey... Got fuel gauge working, electric horn all lights on the box and cab working. The Air dryer is now purging like it should so we are making progress. Turn signals and flashers are still an issue but the manual showed up today from Ebay so now I can really start figuring things out. Was hoping my 3100 psi pressure washer would blow off all the cracked and peeling paint to bare metal. So I'll have to get more invasive I guess to figure out how to get the Decals that are left, and the paint off the box. If any body / paint experts have some ideas I'm all ears.

Today was productive. Got all the cargo box clearance lights tail lights working today. The truck had been sitting for almost 5 years and the cab release was stuck, will got that freed up and the cab tiled forward after I cleaned out all the crap out of it. But I was able to find one of the Bomb Tech's business cards under the divers seat so that was cool. Cab clearance lights are now all working also, headlights high low all good but I do need to replace the left headlight all the reflective material has come off and the truck looks like it has a black eye. My issue is turn signals, got nothing I don't hear the flasher unit cycling but I also will have to find out where it is cause the fuse block for the truck is tiny, and will need to check fuses also. Will also have to check the AC compressor I don't hear it engaging so once gain I'll start with fuses and go from there. Will pick up fuel and air filters tomorrow cause they had to come from the Hub. The more she runs the happier she seems after sitting 4 plus years, I put 10 gallons with regular Lucas into the tank because the gauge was reading zero and Once on the road the gauge started working adding another 5 gallons to to the tank and a bottle of Lucas Stage 2 cleaner and she seems much happier I don't know how much old fuel was in the tank but after a 10 mile test run today she was much happier But 100% good fuel and new filters will also help.. Cab and engine got sprayed down with Simple Green, the cab also being scrubbed down with simple green and water in a bucket and just for a quick initial clean the cab looks much better. But Bruno was not much help he would not tell me if the break lights were working. He would just pant and look at me, but he did seem to enjoy chilling in the cargo box. Question: Where should I migrate future progress in the forum? Not sure if I would consider this a classic at 28 years old....

@mechohaulic My 98 MS 200P does not have any Mack Logo on the cab only the Bulldogs on the Mirrors was the give away, but the earlier models1st Gen Midliners did in the 80's looking at picture of them. When I 1st saw what is now my truck from about 100 yard away I 1st thought it was a old Volvo cabover.

Oh I was wrong its a MS 200 P

1998 MS 200

Well the Midliner has landed< I gave her a quick once over checking fluids, coolant and for leaks of anything and tire pressures and added 15 gallons of fresh diesel into the tank along with Lucas Fuel additive. Add with the plate secured on the back we set off with my buddy following behind in my HD3500 just in case we had some issues. But other than the tach & some lights not working and the the trip was uneventful. She ran fine rides surprisingly well, I think that body is heavy.... But not going to set any land speed records in this rig that's for sure... But I also don't know if maybe they have the throttle limited cause this used to be a County Truck. We shall see after I really start digging into her. But she does have some neat decals inside that will have to stay. But the wood shelves on the left side are the 1st to go... Might also see if I can rig up a (shore power) plug for the rear body. She has AC/heat in the back all wired in but I guess the Gen set was removed before she went up on auction but has plenty of lights and outlets already wired into the box. Which will reduce my workload to making her an RV. @Joey Mack Yes I'm in North Carolina still didn't stray too far from Ft Bragg after being medically retired in 2016. So any copies of anything from your manuals would be amazing and thank you for the offer.

Ok good to know, would not of thought of looking at Ebay as a source. Thanks

Well I like a challenge.... lol

I have zero working knowledge on this truck so I'm looking for manuals on the 6.2 Renault diesel on this truck, and any manuals on the MS 200 chassis / cab for wiring diagrams if anyone knows a good source for these than you in advance. I know threw Kenworth I was able to order the Manuals for my 1984 K-100 C and my T-600 right from Kenworth. Would I be able to to this through Mack maybe?

Well I now own a 1998 Mack MD-200. I found it a shop a buddy of mine told me about after the one shop I had gone to since 2008 to do my inspections on all my vehicles closed, the owner retiring and selling the building in 30 days. So with a name and directions I found this place. And while they are doing the Inspection on my 08 GMC HD3500 diesel I see this thing across their lot dejected in the corner. And from a distance I thought is was a Volvo, so I asked it they minded If I went and looked at it and once I got close the Bulldogs on the mirrors gave it away. But it was weird, and being a combat vet, a paratrooper my whole carrier I guess I'm a but weird too so it was perfect. I look it over but its locked, so I ask "what's the deal with this thing and do they have keys"? So the old dude take me to the office and I meet the owner and we hit it off so he hands me the keys saying "Its been sitting there for almost 5 years... So I already going, going to need batteries, pull all the filters, add fresh fuel, prime yada yada" in my head. I go out to the truck and open the side door tot he box, its lined and insulated it about 100 degrees in the sun about 80 inside that box. Got cabinets and shelves built in and a Mack Coleman Heat and AC unit on the roof. Stuck on the wall above the desk is a Gaston County Bomb Squad sticker... Well my 1st job in the Army was a 12B Combat Engineer and we blew stuff up and I'm the reason you cant do a controlled detonation of more that 250 pounds of explosives anymore after I did a 850 pound cratering charge a long time ago.... So I was this is a sign.... I unlock the cab and its clean, some trash but clean. For shits and grins I put the key in the ignition push in the clutch and she started right up! Another sign, this is supposed to happen and it's like she was waiting for me to find her.... I was shocked, she built pressure, the clutch feels good the breaks released and its got 111k miles on her. So the deal was struck. Doing a quick search online this forum came up with posts about this model so that's why I'm here. She is a weird duck a Renault/Mack and well its Effing French so yeah it's gonna be weird. SO I may need to pick your guys brains. 26000 pound GVW so below CDL and has the 6.2 Diesel inline 6 with a Eaton 6 speed manual tranny Millennial anti theft device factory and what appears to be a aftermarket installed AC unit over the floor hump and under the dashboard. My plan is on making her into a RV after a bunch of TLC. But I need to find a windshield 1st and I can see that maybe a task.... And yes my truck is a Schrodinger's Mack It is and is not a Mack truck being a Renault import... And it's ok I've had rocks thrown at me before in Albania, Iraq, Kosovo and Haiti so I'm used to it, and I expect a few from Mack purist's... But I know what real Mack's are, being form Canton CT, and Canton Village Construction's fleet of Mack trucks were my across the street neighbor's.

I was the Battalion Staff Duty NCO for 2/505 Parachute Infantry Regiment Ft Bragg NC. Taking the Red Line Message from the 82nd Airborne Div HQ and alerting the Chain of Command on what had happened. That was the longest and shortest 24 hour Duty I ever had. I don't think I ever got the chance to sit down that day. Few year later the Renovation of that Battalion's area I talked to contractors, explained I had served there and when. They pulled up and give me the Battalion HQ's flag pole I still have it as a tribute to the buddies I lost in the Invasion of Iraq and following GWoT. I was part of the Invasion, was just a different Brigade then in the 82nd. And was also part of the Surge later on I have almost 3 year boots on ground in Iraq.