brutus998

E9 450 V8 motor

Hi,

Nice find. Can you send me a P.M. with the last 4 of the vin as well so I can add it to my copy of the Magnum database. Do you have any more pictures of the truck,interior, ect. .

Thanks, Josh

Josh pm sent. I will take more pics of the magnum tomorrow when I get back to the garage. Tomorrow we start new paint job on our 1980 superliner pulling truck.

That is beyond cool - very sweet find! What are your plans for it?

We will use it as a back up a little, maybe go to some shows, truck pull it a little, but mostly it will sit in the garage.

Send me the last 4 of the VIN and your email and I will send you a copy of the Magnum Databases.

Phildirt

Phildirt I sent you a private message with the vin...thanks!

Tom

Send me the last 4 of the VIN and your email and I will send you a copy of the Magnum Databases.

Phildirt

I will definately do that. Thanks

We just got this one. It is in mint condition inside and out. Also a true magnum. V-8 motor with about 1,000 or less miles on a complete overhaul.

I believe the E9 400 came out in 78 or 79 with the Introduction of the first Superliners. Then around 82-83 mack came out with the E9 440 V8, and in 1985 they came out with the E9 500 in the US as stated previously in this thread.

I have 2 V8 Superliners that run everyday. Wouldnt trade or sell for anyother truck in the world.

I believe the first ENDT's V8 that came out in the B-Models had twins in them. The ENDT's had lots of problems. I never owned an 865 or 866 but I sure to like the R700L's with the west coast package

i drive a 12 speed and it will grind regardless if its cold, however when it warms up, when your in 4H, revv it high and shift lever to 5H, then immediately click it to 5D and tap the accelerator and it will be in 5D

like any crash box, timing is everything

I do the exact same thing. I drive a V8 with a 12 speed...I have to shitf 4H into 5H and split back to 5Direct it is impossible to go 4H to 5D without grinding.

I love the 12 speed.

Need advise on how to downshift. Can't get into gear. I have purchased a 1988 RW713 Superliner E9 motor. Do not know the made of trans. It is a 12 speed w 4 air selection on the shifter ( H,D,N,R ). Upshifts fine.

It is a sweet tranny!!!

What I do if you want to downshift 1 gear from High to directs just take your foot off the accelerator and flip the splitter from High range down to direct range then push foot back on accelerator.

With my V8 12 speed I dont split a whole lot. Essentially if you have a lot of trouble shifitng and splitting(direct to high) then just shift it like a 5 speed. Unless there is a huge grade I wont split until 4th and 5th holes.

Hope this helps!!!

You really dont lose much on the mpg. I compared mine to my uncles on the same hall, we was fueling up at the same times. He has an RD with a 9 speed E6 350, his weighs a little more than mine, most of the time he was putting 2-5 more gallons a day more than I was.

Im not sure what type of auxillary is behind my uncles, but he can shift it on the fly, he just lets off the accelarator shits the aux and glides it into gear, I thought it was similar to shifting a manual with out using the clutch.

You will lose a little on the hills, it just depends what motor you have behind your auto. With my little 350 it is hard to say, because with a manual 350 you would be dropping anyways.

I thought I would chime in on this situation since I own quite a few macks and I have one with an Allison.

Allison Automatics are awesome, especially if you have an auxillary behind it.

I have an 83 RD Tri-axle dumptruck(the pic is in my avatar). I have a 5 speed Allison HD750DRD. Watching the videos is true, an allison in 1st gear has unbelievable torque. I have hauled dumps all my life and an automatic will run circles around a manual off road, I own a manuals as well you're not going to tell me otherwise because I have experienced them both.

Our Allison is 26 years old and it has been overhauled one time!!!! Allison Automatic in Canton, OH told us it didnt even need overhauled in 1999. The transmission has well over 500,000 miles on it and it keeps going. My Mack doesnt have an auxilary behind it, but Im going to do that upgrade with in the next year or two. I have an uncle who has a 69 Kenworth with a 4 speed Allison and an 8V-92 Silver Detroit with a 4 speed auxilary and he can top out over 100mph!!!

Believe me the extra money is worth it. We'll be going to look at buying some pit trucks with Allisons in the near future.

Bonner Farms has now bought the truck....Dale Francis will put a neat twist under the hood

Nice looking truck. The track sure went away for the later pullers, looked like the moisture started coming back to the top.

This is my favorite Mack puller, at least for now.

Keep us updated.

Bonner's Killer is awesome. Dale Francis knows his E9's that is for sure. Sander's Silver Bullet, and The Buckeye Bulldog have all had very successful seasons.

Mackenstein only has one charger. It was originally set-up for four chargers, but he wanted didnt want to limit where he could pull

It is my uncle's new pulling truck he calls it "Mack-n-stein"

It is the 4th truck to pull in this video. He is still working out the bugs out of the V8

Very Custom design on the scheme of this truck.

Superliner Cab, CH Mack Hood, B Model Rear window, custom made pick-up truck bed. The cab has suicide doors and it has been chopped 4 inches.

What do you think?

What is the differences in an 85 V8 vs the final years they were produced? I am eyeing an 85 and just curious.

85 is the first year they came out the 500 hp E9 V8. Basically the E9 is the same engine from the early 80's to the later 90's when Mack quit producing the V8.

The e9 v8 was made with 4 different horse power ratings: 400, 440, 450, 500 hp. The only difference is the timing, injection settings, and turbo

I would start off bumping up the injection pump and a higher performance clutch.

If you have the Bosch V-pump it is very easy to turn up the R's and Fuel. If you have the Inline "Staight 8" pump it is a little more difficult.

If you have the money you can goto Antrim Diesel in Greencastle, PA and they can hook you up with all the high performance goodies.

Rob this is an awesome project. Fred Sanders had a Superliner Conversion with a 12v 71 under the hood that he pulled the sled with. They ditched the detroit last year for a 998 mack.

You ever thought of putting an Allison behind the 12v? You would be impressed. There is a guy around where I live who fit(crammed) a 12v71 into a GMC General with an Allison Automoatic. I hear he dragraces it against pick-ups and whips on them. I just know there is always a lot of shifting involved with the old detroits. My great uncle has a 68 Kenworth with an 8v 92 Silver Series with a 5 speed auto and it will move up the road!

Good luck

Tom

http://www.imcdb.org/vehicles_make-Mack.html

It has pictures of mack trucks in different movies. Thought it was cool

This truck is very custom and unique. I have seen this truck because it is in the same town where I am from. I know Ed Crock(the owner) very well. Believe me this truck is well worth it. My uncle sold him this superliner.

I have looked and looked for an aftermarket R/RD aftermarket grille. I thought about trying to custom fit a peterbuilt one to match up. Anyone have any luck or ideas?

Oh I also forgot to tell you. In the superliner that I drove w/ 12 speed it is almost impossible to grab 11th(5th direct) gear with out grinding at least a little.

Oh, I see. So first position on the shifter really handles 4 different gears (when you count all the splits... one regular split and one lo/lo-lo split). All the other positions (2,3,4,5) contain only 2 gears each.

Sodly you are correct. All the way over and down is low and low-high(1st and 2nd gear). Let me tell you they are turtle slow when you have the low-range locked in!!!! Really you would want to start off in 3rd. Unless on a hill you can just keep in direct and shift like a 5 speed, then split the last one for Over-drive. Now most 12 speeds that I have seen will raise the bed with the shifter. Kick in PTO then make sure shifter is in neutral then put in gear and it will raise your bed. !st gear raises bed real slow and 3rd raises super fast. It really is a sweet tranny. You can grab 5 gears in reverse just like the old 6 speeds.

here is a pic of my dad's old Superliner called "Brutus"

And another couple of pics

The interior packages definately differed. You could have just a basic ruber mat, to carpet the whole nine. My dad has a Superliner with the level 4 Blue interior. It has carpet flooring. The Mack Magnum series had that real nice red interior. My uncle is currently re-doing an original Magnum from head to toe. One of the major changes inside the cab from the Superliner I to the Superliner II was the heater. The Superliner I had more of a flat heater/ac panel, there were very nice for leg room compared to the Superliner II models. I have no idea why they made that change. Oh well I have gotten used to my knee resting on the corner of the heater panel. They didnt macks for luxury

The RW713s were a heavier speced truck from factory. I believe most of them had the double frame. Some of the RW613s had aluminum frames.

Some of the cosmetic differences were with the Superliner I had twin air tanks below the battery boxes, circle headlights, and the sloped portion of the front part of the frame w/ an external sterring box. The Superliner I's were hard to keep on the road with the ext. steering boxes.

As Doug said Mack made the transition from Superliner I to Superliner II in 1985. They upgraded the E9 from 440 hp to 500 and 450.

My dad and uncle have quite a few superliners still. They are a class of their own.

Wouldnt this be an awesome combo? I have heard from a very reliable source that Mack manufactured E9's with an Allison-Autos. I heard these trucks were used in airports. Anyone else heard of this?