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I have pieces of one that I am going try to use as a pattern.  I think if we are going to keep these trucks going we as a community are going to need to start thinking out of the box.  There will be a definite market for a pattern, even if we have to sew it.  Or pay someone to sew it. 

Finaly got my parts truck home and of course i want to see if i can get it run.  I didnt have a long enough bar with me so i will have to go back and give it a spin...hopfully.  Anyway i discovered the truck has a 711 backed up bt a 14 speed.  I am not familiar with.  Are they any good? 

2 hours ago, mowerman said:

That looks like it to me… for that price I would grab it, unless that’s a pint can lol… Bob

It's a quart

I was surfing around the old innerwebs and ran across this color from Alkandys.  He sell it on on ebay also.  I have not tried it, but it looks darn close on a computer screen.

I want to thank the people at the Mack Museum for finding and scanning the mechanical drawings for the floor pans.  I have attached them for future restores to use...to bad I would have got this 2 weeks ago!   

1340335038_FloorPans.pdf

8 hours ago, Mike said:

Sure would like a photo of each side of the engine, standing next to the tires. This might give me enough info to put back a couple of parts on mine. Thanks

I'd help you out if it was mine...I stole the pic awhile back because I thought it would help put my nose back on.  Maybe someone on here owns it, but I'm not sure it's in the same state of repair.

On 12/12/2021 at 6:57 AM, Mike Harbison said:

Thats about right, they went to a bracket attached to the headlight panel that went to the radiator support,instead of having the panel bolted to the shell itself. So all you had was the bolts on top,the one on each side behind the hood latch,and 2 at the bottom that went to a bracket on the shutters. I hope I explained that right . If I could still post pics on this damn site ,there's a nice illustration in one of my older Mack all purpose, m.anuals

Hi Mike, I could use that diagram and probably a bunch more people could also.  If you scan it to me or take a picture maybe I or one of the admins can get it up. 

Getting a double over would be great!  But probably not my luck.  We will see.  I have to go to NJ this weekend for my Daughters Cheerleading Competition, but hopefully will have it home next weekend.  Will probably take it to my buddies Junk Yard where I can take my time to salvage what I can. 

Good thinking!!! I didn't even look.  I did crawl in the cab but the drivers seat looked like it had melted and I layed an old board across to get the paaenger door open.

The b42 is in my shop with the 6v53 Detroit engine.  The b61 is my latest acquisition.  The cab is pretty bad, I will be keeping my b42 cab...though not much better that the b61.  Yes the triplex transmission is in the b61 (in the weeds)  I was not able to crawl under the b61 since it is settled down in the dirt to get a number off the Trans.  So I'm not sure exactly what model.  I'm going with what the owner has told me. I wanted to bar the engine over but I can't get a breaker bar in there.  I assume it's seized. 

It's pretty bad...the floors are gone, door bottoms are rough.  But it has a lot of parts I can use on my b42.

The says he has the headlight panels complete.  Outer fenders are gone and I assume inners  are also.. Here is the tag. B61 not sure of the year

It is for recreational use...maybe haul a trailer occasionally.   I have to figure out the input shaft length and pilot bearing diameter...

Sounds like it will hold up, I'm not planning on using it hard.  I have a time scheduled with the guy tomorrow evening to check it out.  

About 200hp and 450ftlb torque

I have got the engine install pretty well figured out and have been toying with the idea of what trans to use.  I have the original Fuller 5 speed that came off the Detroit and I have the little Duplex from the 401 Gas job.  I would love to keep 2 sticks but the Duplex would not enjoy the torque of the 6v53N.  Being the Triplex if from a diesel i thought it would be better suited for the Detroit...If I can make it fit.  According the build sheet it looks like its got a 6.20 rear axle and with 48" tire, 2500rpms and 1:1 in the transmission.  It should run 52mph.  If I push the Detroit to 2800 it should run about 57mph.  

Hello everyone,  Hope you got your junk put away...the white stuff is a comin here in the Northeast.  I had a guy stop in the shop last week and informed me that he has a 1958ish B Model with a diesel and triplex sitting in the weeds. Frame was cut at the front spring shackle and the outer fenders were gone but the rest was there. I have not seen it in person yet, but the price sounded real good. Soooo.  I want to know what you think about a triplex behind a 6v53 Dripoit.  Is it even possible to bolt it up.  The Detroit is a SAE2 and I have no idea what the Triplex is...PS.  Don't be haten

29 minutes ago, General Ike said:

The truck is an hour a way in Ocala.  This is the only photo of the drivers side engine compartment that I could find.  Full disclosure, I am nearly positive this motor came out of a front end loader or dump truck that was wrecked.  The Borough of Gettysburg did the work in house but those folks are long gone.  It was done in the late '70's  early '80's.  I was active in the FD from 1996-2000 and purchased the truck in 2005 or so.  It'll be some time before I can get to Ocala, so this pic is all I've got to share.  I do not recall there being any custom welds or modifications on the exhaust manifold.

Thank you for the Info.  I think I have mounted about where yours is.  Looks like your exhaust runs forward.  My truck in Non-Turbo so i think I should send it out the back.  If I can make a 45 degree bend about an inch from the manifold clamp...I think I can get it.  Thanks for the pic.  If you ever get up that way and want to snap a few pics I would love to add them to my posts.  Just for other weirdos putting Detroit's in B-Models.

1 hour ago, Rob said:

Seen a couple of 6-71 Detroit engines in a B-61 chassis several years ago. Never worked with them, just knew the owners and both were transplants.

Also have seen a 6V-71 installed into a B-61 and it took little modification to be a slip fit.

Yes with a doghouse or nose extension it will fit.  I didn't want to modify the look or make a dog house.  Could have put in a 6v71 but couldn't find one when I got the 6v53.  I now know where there is a 6v71.

671 is too long.