B61 Bill

I remember, which I believe was on the old boards, a section on Transmissions Data. It listed just about every trans ever put in a Mack, shift patterns, gear ratios, etc. I searched a little on here, but couldn't find anything.

Do we still have that available?

Any info would be appreciated.

Beautiful Work.

I like the Chevy too.

Found this while doing a little research.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mack_Truck

To the Mack experts out there, any mistakes?

A lot of things today are going downhill. I may be getting used to it some, but I sure still don't like it.

The 5000 pound GVW rating is probably the manufacturer's rating for what your pickup is really capable of. The 6500 pound figure is probably the minimum the state licences for, and doesn't mean your pickup can carry that.

The weight capacity of a vehicle is always the lowest of manufacturers rating, licenced weight, etc. Don't make the mistake a friend of mine did after having a 10,000 pound rated hitch installed on her Explorer- she tried towing a nearly 10,000 pound trailer and blew out the transmission! Her explorer was rated for only 3500 pounds towing, and the transmission rebuild set her back over $2000.

I was just making a basic point about weights here in Virginia, but as much as I'm not one to overload any truck, a few times that my half tons got loaded up to around 6200 or 6300 at the gravel yards, the trucks handled it just fine. (I run 60's and early 70's Chevy pick-ups with manual transmissions). And it was nice to know that I was within legal limits to boot.

Even my pick-up can carry more legally. The GVW states 5000, but my registration automatically states 6500. BUT we seem to have stricter laws here. You are more responsible for your actions here. For example, a person can carry the extra weight, but needs to be able to deal with it. If you take a curve too fast and end up in a ditch you can be charged for "Failure to Control Vehicle".

Does anyone know where I can find a R model JUST like this one? Thats road ready - I am still looking and I havent found one yet , but this one is perfect if I can just find it or one like it. THANKS TO ALL YOU GUYS

I wouldn't mind having one like that myself and I find them now and then at Truckpaper. My problem is that the truck I find is usually 1500 miles away. If you don't mind traveling, Truckpaper is the place, and there's always that chance that you'll get lucky and find one close to your home.

The Rawhide sure is a nice looking truck. It has a grille that is all Mack. No offense to Visions owners out there, but I just can't get myself to like how the top of the hood and grille looks.

That is a nice looking truck. I could use one like that myself only a single axel would suit me fine.

It looks like the B-Model Dump in the back ground is a tri-axel.

I have a 1973 9500 Brigadier 671-n 10 speed fuller, single screw it has over a mil. on it and runs like a top.

Thanks for your interest, any tips on that model? What kind of GMC do you have?

I used to drive a '71 GMC 9500 tandem with a 10-Speed RR. I loved the truck, but the company I drove for was too cheap to buy a diesel and it had a 637 V-8 gas. It was pretty much a dog. But I did get to drive a '70 9500 with a 6-71 and got to exprience what I should have had. The company also had a '62 GMC 6500 with a 478 V-6 gas. That was one tough truck. Only ones I have now are 1-Tons, but I use to own a '62 GMC 4000 with a 305 V-6 gas and '67 GMC 7500 with a 6V-53 Detroit.

I don't have a lot of experience with the "Scoop Back Cabs" and I wouldn't mind having one, but for my personal choice, I would prefer a regular style cab.

I love my GMC but I would love to sink my teeth into a good ol' mack for restoration.

I'm a big GMC fan myself. What kind of GMC do you have?

Edit: Just read under your member number. It sounds like you have a 9500. Is it Detroit powered?

I might be off a little, but I would say mid 60's.

Also see that you are a John Deere fan. I have a '59 JD Model 435.

A lot of pricing has to do with the area of the country you are in, but if it were what I was looking for and I needed to determine a price in my mind that I'd be real happy with, reasonably speaking, that figure would be about $4000. But my guess would be that the owner of it is wanting about $6000 to $9000.

Nice looking single axel R, but would need to know some more details on it. Tried to find some, but nothing worked.

Had some extra time last night to check out some trucks for sale over at Truckpaper. I found a '73 R Model that has an 8V-71 with a 13-Speed and two trucks with 12V-71's. One is in a GMC General and the other in a Kenworth W Model. In my opinion 12-71's still in trucks are getting pretty hard to find nowadays.

I agree it depends on the state. Anyone familair with Virginia will know that our scales are just about always open. On a 1 1/2 ton or larger truck, I would just stop. But I wasn't sure about my 1 ton. I called once to ask and got a vague answer, but he basically said, if the 1 ton is visibly empty, it would be my choice to stop or not, but most likely it would be OK (But no gaurentee!). But if the truck is loaded or looks like it may be anywhere near the Max GVW, he recommended me to stop.

If I were running a tractor with and empty flat, in Virginia, I would definitely stop.

The post about the CDL's reminded me of another question. If a person bought a truck with a GVW of 35,000, and say the truck weighed 17,000, and registered it to the lower GVW of 26,000, which wouldn't require a CDL, I'm wondering if this would be able to work with no problems. If it would work, besides being able to legally drive it without a CDL, one could still haul 9,000 lbs worth of weight. Wondering if anyone out there has ever done this or would have any info on it.

Drove a 32,000 GVW truck for a year and a half without a truck license. But that was in the old days before the CDL's were out. Wouldn't really want to do it now, especially in Virginia, and especially if I was involved in some type of problem. Finally got my chauffer's license, but it expired when the CDL's started.

This subject reminds me of another question, which I'll post in a new thread.

A Cummins in a Chevy would just be too cool!

When they came out with the Cummins in the late 88's I went looking for one to put in my 85 GMG 2500. when I found out how much it would cost, I backed away real fast!

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Wonder what the market would be on a used one, altho you don't hear of too many available.

How would a Cat 3208 work in a pickup?

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I once thought about that one myself, but the 3208 would be too heavy. By the chart I am presently going by, it states it is 2080 Lbs. That would be more than 3 times a Big Block Chevy.

The ideal setup would be the Cummins in a Chevy with a 6 speed or the Allison.

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Other than a 4-53 Detroit, that would be my pick. A Cummins in a Chevy with a 6-Speed manual.

I'm not sure where I heard it, and it might even have been here, but someone said that they heard we soon may be able to pick what engine we want in a pick-up. That's the way it should be, like we have in larger trucks.

Since Mack doesn't make a pick-up, which Diesel do you like best? Ford Powerstroke, Dodge Cummins or Chevrolet Duramax?

Also would be interested in your opinion on the Duramax.

I had always wondered why Mack never built a pick-up in the "modern era" and one day I decided to contact Mack in Allentown and asked if they would ever consider it. This was a couple of years ago and I mentioned that if they made a well built, nostalgic looking pick-up with a real good diesel engine in it and were able to put a reasonable price on it, it would probably be a big success.

In my opinion, if it were done right, they could probably out sell Chevy, Ford and Dodge individually and maybe even more than all three total.

To my surprise, I got a pretty quick response from some one pretty high up in the office, but we didn't get the answer we were hoping for. Their answer was that "They are not set up at the facility to build smaller trucks". Also went on to say that if they did proceed on it, that they would have to farm it out and they really didn't have a good choice of anyone to build one for them. I never sent back a reply, but in my opinion, I would say having someone else build it for them would be a mistake anyway. But also will say if they're not set-up to build one, to get set-up.

What do y'all think?

Randy, It's http://www.telusplanet.net/public/ryq/

If you like 6V-53's, there's one over there on a Dyno Tester. Talk about screaming. But whoever visits will have to make sure they listen to the 12V-71's. There's 2 on there and they are well worth listening to.

Two hands? Do you have to shift a quad this way or can you use only one hand (too slow?)

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Just to answer your question maybe a little clearer, yes you can shift with just one hand if you choose to. I've never read a drivers manual, but I bet they would recommend just one hand. But when shifting that way there will be times you will need to bring the revs back up to get it in gear.