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In the 80's when many Island Departments were still building their CF fleets, I was offered a bunch of B models that were being traded in or sold by bid on the new stuff. If only I had the money at the time............. When we were looking for our first aerial one Department near Croton, don't remember the name, was offering to sell us their White B Model ladder and throw in a free B Model pump with the deal.

Hope your 'Scope makes out OK after the salt dip.

Mackman, you were in "Mack Heaven" on the Island. When we first started visiting Baldwin, they were all Mack other than the Fox and their American laFrance rear mount aerial. The Island designed some of the fanciest B Model Macks that I have ever seen. I traveled around the Island quite a bit and the hospitality of the departments we visited was always first class, just like their apparatus.

Hi All:

The pump is a 237, it doesn't seem like there were many V-8's around here. Nearest one I heard of was in Reading PA.

Anyway, this CF has been sold, thanks for the interest.

Paul

The tower ladder has been sold.

Thanks for all the interest.

The second engine is a little bit of a project truck and I am holding it for a collector from NH looking for a project, he is going to look at it tomorrow and I am 90% sure will take it. If he does not I will post info on it here. (Thanks Louie)

The other two CF's (pump & tower) are sold.

Thanks to all who inquired.

Paul

^{My building is 60 x 140 and it is stuffed. I would like an aerial though. Mike}

Alright----make it an addition of 75 x 50. You need this truck for the fleet!!

My Department (Lynnfield) has had a long friendship with Truck 2 of Baldwin since we bought their 1956 American laFrance aerial which was our first aerial. They are a first-class Department and have always had outstanding equipment. They still have their Ahrens-Fox HT 1200 gpm pumper in service, a beautiful rig! It is my understanding that they are in the preliminary stages of replacing Truck 2 (The Mack 95') which will be a great truck for some lucky department. Their Truck 1 was one of the first aerialscopes on the Island and saw a lot of fire duty during the busy days of the 1970's.

Hi Mike: Don kept them out for the summer and stored inside for the winter. Think the gold leaf is on vinyl, some is regular leaf. Not sure, think the replacement motor was a 285 or 300. Serial number is CF685FAP1199. Aerial worked when it was sold, don't think much has changed. You need to build a steel building, about 50 x 75 should do but I don't know with the size of your fleet.

I have just posted info and photos of two of the three Mack CF apparatus that I am selling for the Don Costin estate. One pump and one Aerialscope so far. Info is in classified for sale section of the forums.

This apparatus is from the Don Costin estate. Apparatus is a 1975 Mack CF, Mack diesel, 5 speed manual transmission, 1250 gpm pump, two deck guns, Federal Q, train horns in place of regular air horns, bell and other equipment. Mileage showing on a replacement speedometer is 10,724. Formerly of Salisbury, MA, Fire Department, owned by Mr. Costin since 2005. Truck runs and drives. Asking $3250. Truck is in Wenham, MA

The DM is SOLD. Thanks for the interest.

Sorry, it is in Wenham, MA.

Hello:

I am assisting the estate of Don Costin of Wenham MA in selling antique Mack trucks and fire apparatus. The B42 which I mentioned earlier has been sold. For Sale is a 1976 DM800, former cement truck, now configured as a wrecker. Vehicle is not perfect but presents well, runs and drives and has in excess of 100,000 miles. DM has a Mack 300 motor and a Maxitourque compound transmission. Photos are below.

Also for sale are three Mack CF fire apparatus, 2 pumps and an Aerialscope. More info and photos will be posted here later and also on the SPAAMFAA.org web site.

Asking price for the 1976 DM is $4,000.

Please message me if you are interested. The estate has asked me to price these vehicles to sell.

Great looking CF!! What is the background of the apparatus? Looks like a 55' snorkel on it. Was it delivered to New Zealand new or did you have it shipped in?

An ad from Craigslist Boston

Here's the link:

http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/cto/3905430459.html

He's asking $1000, has a 671, 5 + 2 transmission and 2 spare fenders.

Hi: Not sure if this is the right place to look for info, if not, yell.

I work for an auction gallery and we have been consigned a pair of Grover Organ Tone air horns. Looking for info to write for cataloging purposes.

I have never seen a pair of these and also wondered if the fancy decoration is standard for these.

Thanks.

Paul

Thanks Bryan, that's a great photo! That is one of the trucks to be sold in the immediate future.

Loadstar, your 750 pump is piped for 1000 or four discharges. Those crafty New Englanders knew that the pump makers sometime used the same pump body for both 750 and 1000 gpm applications. If they paid the smaller price of an extra discharge, they got a unrated 1000 gal pump for cheap money. The truck would still be Underwriter rated as a 750. You pump panel has four discharge gauges on the top row and the intake and master pump pressure gauge on the bottom. The gauge with the missing glass is your intake gauge. I may have one, will look around and let you know.

There are two on ebay right now, closing soon. The item number for one is:

As some of you are aware, Donald P. Costin of Wenham, Mass. passed away recently after a brief battle with cancer. Don was a Mack truck enthusiast for many years and was well known about the circuit with his characteristic fedora, sport jacket, tie and leather vest. He was a true gentleman in every sense of the word. He had served his community in many capacities and was a lover of history and things historic. At the time of his death, Don had several Mack trucks that I will be assisting the estate to find new homes. We have to wait until the appointment of the executor before sales can be made but I anticipate that in the very near future. His trucks, at the time of his death, were:

Three Mack CF's, two pumpers and one aerialscope, one B-42X dump truck and one 1976 DM800 that was a mixer made into a platform wrecker.

I will be posting detailed information about these trucks when the court approves their sale.

If you would like to be notified by email, please message me with your email address.

Thanks,

Paul Romano

Sanbornville, NH

Hi Wes:

If you don't already know about them, you might place a (FREE) information/apparatus wanted advertisement on the SPAAMFAA website (Society for the Preservation and Appreciation of Antique Motor Fire Apparatus in America). Their web site is at www.spaamfaa.org. There are also two active SPAAMFAA Chapters in California, the California Chapter at http://www.calspaamfaa.com/, and the Southern California Chapter at http://www.crownfirecoach.org/ . Don't let the name scare you, they are not only about Crowns. You might get lucky with one of their members remembering your Mack. Good luck with the search.

Also, on the driver's side photo of your apparatus, the can on the running board between the pump and the extinguisher is an oil can. Carried extra oil for motor or primer. Can went into a bucket style holder which held the oil can with friction springs.

Hi Dan:

I was able to find my Mack Type 50 brochure which lists all standard equipment. The page with the list is double wide so I will scan it and send it along as a PDF. Msg me your email when you have a chance.

The standard equipment is:

WARNING SIGNAL- electric siren horn and locomotive bell

TOOL BOX: one with complete tool kid, also ample equipment locker space

BOOSTER EQUIPMENT: 100 gal booster tank mounted in hose body, 150 feet 3/4 inch four ;ply rubber hose with shut off nozzle and 2 tips

mounted on hose reel. Soda and Acid chemical tank optional.

LADDERS: Extension, 20 foot solid side rapid hoist. Roof, 12 foot solid side with folding hooks.

SUCTION HOSE: two lengths 10 feet 6 inches long

CROWBAR: One 8 pound steel crowbar with holder

HOSE CAPACITY: 1000 feet of 2 1/2 inch hose

PIKE POLE: Regulation 10 foot pike pole

AXE: One fire department standard

LANTERN: one, electric (I stand corrected!)

EXTINGUISHERS: Two 3-gallon, with hose and shut-off nozzle, complete with holders, one soda acid and one foam type.

MISCELLANEOUS: one hydrant connection, one metal strainer for suction hose, two-play pipe cones or screw bases, one 2 1/2inch double male connection, one 2 1/2 inch double female connection

End of List

Your apparatus looks like it has everything except the ladder. Tool box usually in a compartment under the hose bed at the rear step.

BTW, the Mack extinguishers were usually one foam and one soda-acid. The type that were on your apparatus were some of the earliest series of Mack marked extinguishers. I have seen some from the 30's that were labeled "Mack-Fomon" which might indicate that Fomon made the extinguishers for Mack at that time. Mack made or had made marked extinguishers up into the late 50's early 60's as best I can determine. There were several distinct styles used. I have seen pairs of your era trade for over $1000 for a nice pair.