jpavao1066

Ok cool I didn't realize they were stickers in these trucks. I know someone who can make decals, I'm sure I could find a good example online for him to copy from.

Looks like quite the job on that floor! Luckily mine didn't get to that point, I only have a couple small spots I can cut out and replace. Soon as I'm done with the cab corner and rocker.

Here's our old 35 tonner.

Say thebeast weighs 16 tons with scrap at $250/ton (that's roughly the price here in Ontario). That's $4000. BUT, you gonna throw that thing in the back of a pickup and haul it on down to the wreckers? Even if you hire a crane and a rig capable of hauling the beast, how much is going to be left of the $4000? About what would be a reasonable expectation by the company to have the truck gone as is where is. $2000 tops maybe?

There is a huge cost to scrapping a rig like that old truck.

Point out the economics to the company and get a buddy to help you use your R, even with a pulling rig for your fifth wheel, hook onto the beast, haul her home and break out the beer and barbeque. Don't ignore the possibility that the company just wants rid of the liability of having derelict equipment sitting around, which is much, much higher than $4000 and they might, just might, not even be interested in the salvage value. So that would be like ... free truck ... except for getting her home .... and beer.

Well these are all definitely good points. Especially the BBQ and beer! But yes I completely agree that I'm sure there is going to be a cost of having it scrapped. I will ask around a little tomorrow when I get to work, what kind of chance I would have of getting it. Transporting it shouldn't be a problem, just whether or not they will get rid of it. It would really be a fun project, I think my biggest concern though would be the cost of tires.

They might sell it I'm not sure. I'd assume they wouldn't want any less than what they could get in scrap price, which I'm guessing would be a good chunk of change

If the owner's spend some money on promotion, propose that if they give you the truck, you will restore it complete with company logo as a promotion vehicle with, of course, the "o/o jpavao" just so as everyone is clear who owns it and put that old good guy back in such nice condition.

Can you legally drive one of these trucks down a public road?

If I could do that I would absolutely love it! After I finish my r model of coarse, but I think that would be a fun project. Unfortunately I think the chances of that happening would be near impossible. It's a shame too because I'm sure it's got potential in there. I'll have to try to grab some pictures of it Monday.

If I can get it I'm not sure what I want to do with it. Not really looking to sell it, I wouldn't mind building a rat rod with it though

We have a 35 ton mack rock truck here at work, long retired though. Parked out behind the garage. They're planning on torching it, I'd like to atleast get the 12v71 out of it. They had a big 50 ton truck years ago too. Had a 16v92 in it. That one was torched too

Hi, does anyone know if the heater cores in the old R models are the same as the later R models? It looks like mine could be replaced, I didnt know if they were interchangable between trucks?

Ok cool I will give that a try and see what I can come up with that you

Thank you! I like the white it looks real sharp!

Ok i will continue to look, I've found a couple here and there but they are what I already have. Just out of curiosity, would anyone have a picture of an original early r model gauge cluster? I've seen a couple other old gauges but I am unsure if they are the correct ones, and i haven't found much from searching yet. Thanks again for all the info!

Man I wish I had a shop that size to work in! Someday soon hopefully. I would like to find a b model to restore someday as well, but this r really caught my interest, plus the price was right so it's a good truck to start with I think. And I would definitely be interested in a steering wheel if you have one

Barry is the guy who created this site and works at Watts Mack in Pa.

Ok gotcha thank you!

I checked with Bobs About changing my Superliner gauges to white face, he said around $2000.

Ouch that's a lot of money just for gauges, I like the look of the white faces but I can't see spending that much right now! There is a superliner on YouTube with them and it looks really good, I believe it's the Australia Heavy Haulage truck that is in a few videos.

Barry has the original style wings gauges. also Stewart Warner still carries them or they are available on ebay. BCR Al on here has the correct paint code for the earlier R models . its a GM color match, no metallic at all. think its GM code 503 Dupont.Centari. the 65-70 R models with the Corvette dash were a mint green color, 70-72 had a nasty olive drab color usually.

Great thanks for the info! Who is Barry that you say has the original style gauges? And as for the paint thank you, I didn't realize there was that much of a difference. I will look into it to make sure on the paint code.

Thank you for the input, I just contacted bobsspeedometer looking for some info. Also I believe my voltmeter had two leads, but I will have to check again I could be mistaken. And I will check into the fuel gauge as well, thank you

Well Ive finally begun the restoration on my 66 R600. Im hoping to have it done by the beginning of summer, and I have a lot of work ahead of me so I figured I should start somewhere. I started on the interior today, gutting the dash so that i can rewire the truck and clean the mess the mice have made in there over the years. Since I plan to rewire everything, I think I am going to switch over to a neg ground system just for simplicity of adding anything later. From what I understand, to convert to neg ground, I have to

-switch battery leads to starter

-reverse the amp meter leads

-reverse temp gauge leads

-reverse the connections at the heater motor

-install an alternator with a rectifier for Neg ground, unless it is a floating ground alt.

Am I forgetting anything?

Also, the truck has some original gauges, but some have been replaced with aftermarkets. I would like to have all matching gauges, so I was wondering If anyone knew of any places that may do gauge restoration at a resonable cost? I could find the missing original gauges and send them all out to be restored, or does anyone know of an aftermarket gauge manufacturer that sells gauges that would work in these trucks (air psi, 3k tach, etc). I have seen some "old school" looking gauges that look really sharp but they dont make the appropriate gauges that I need like previously metioned.

And one other question, I am going to repaint the interior the original mack green, I was wondering if the R models used the same green color as the B models? Ive heard the newer the truck, the less metallic the paint will have, due to being what was left from the batches of paint the factory had, is that correct?

Thanks in advance for any input

-Justin

Thanks guys, I've loved these trucks since I was crawling around on the rug, I'm just happy I can finally have one of my own! I'm going to start a thread showing the restoration, hopefully I can start it in the next couple weeks. Should be a fun build I've got a lot in mind for it

Thank you, and actually I'm planning on building a small flatbed dump with stake pockets and removable sides. I think the flatbed will look good on it once it's done and it will still be usable with sides on it. Hopefully I can start the rest of the restoration within the next few weeks, I'm working on finding sources for parts first.

Thanks I'm very happy, now to begin the restoration progress!

Well I just thought I would make an update and say that the truck is officially mine today I just brought it home. Very excited to get going on it, took it for a little drive at home down the road and back and it drives great!

I was reading through this thread and thought I would post up some pics of a small part of my collection. I've always liked toy trucks and machines

Ya I would definitely like to re paint the dash, and I've always liked the big white steering wheels. All the gauges work as well.