505 MACK

Just a little info, there is a Seagrave Yahoo group. I am working a 1920 Seagrave myself.

Ray

I was thinking that it was more likely the town of Lakehurst, N.J. then the Base. I know that one of the news clips of the disaster shows a rig as a silouette, I always thought it was a ALF, but couldn't find a Dept. with one that fit. Now this may be what is in the clip. Good luck with the restoation.

Could you tell me where in S.C.? I found a 1920 Seagrave fire truck in a barn near Adams Run, S.C. back last April, to keep my 1941 Mack 505 pumper compamy.

Name: Mack Fire Truck

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Owner: Tinman

Tinman

Name: Mack 505 (1941)

Date Added: 14 December 2008 - 04:47 PM

Owner: Tinman

Short Description: 500 GPM Semi Cab Pumper 22ft long 8ft wide 7ft high 24ft ladder 14ft ladder 3 lengths 4.5" hard sleeve 200ft of 1" booster hose

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I am looking for the current whereabouts of the two Type 75 pumpers that match my rig. These trucks were ordered by the City of Richmond, VA in 1952 and were sold at auction in the mid 1970s. The SNs are 75A-1027 and 75A-1028, and served at E-15 and E-20 respectively.

I have records that show 75A-1027 was owned by Mr. Wayne Pugh of Richmond, VA and 75A-1028 was owned by Mr. Robert Raider of Lancaster, SC. I have also contacted the Mack Museum and I am awaiting the info from them.

Tinman (Ray) You had posted a listing in the A registry for 75A-1029. That is the SN of my rig, so I beleive that rig will be 75A-1028. Do you have any idea where it is now? I have tried to e-mail you, but I assume security is dumping me to the trash bin.

I am looking for pictures of the rear of either rig in their original configuration as mine has been modified over the years. I am also missing the soft sleeve holder (outlined in the picture) from the left running board, so I would like to get dimensions from either rig so I can re-create it.

Thanks for any information you can give me

Fxfymn, sorry it took so long to get back to you. The A Model Mack that I posted is with the Spartanburg Fire Dept. and I have not seen it so the Reg. # could be off. I was told that it has been there since new. I will try to get more on her.

Ray

I'm in process of buying a 1945 LS85 pumper. My first question is about the motor. All I know at this point is that it is a 6 cylinder gas engine. Can anyone give me an idea about horsepower, torque, displacement, etc..? Second question.... Tranny is a 5spd. with 2spd. rear. Since my lovely wife wants to be the primary driver while I run our ladder truck, I want to know if there is any problem with changing the rear making the truck a straight 5spd ? It will not carry water, and should not gross over 16000 lbs. I know the obvious answer is "don't let your lovely wife drive the darn thing" , nonetheless, I'd still like to know.

#1 It should be a 707 engine if you sent the Vin.# to the Mack Museum, they will send you everything have about the Rig.

#2 I would think if you leave the Rig in high range you should beable to run OK.

That's my $.02

Ray

Thanks so much guys. I'm just glad that I get to be stationed close to home and well let's face it. The goverments checks don't bounce. I'm so glad that I joined this sight. With just my first post I found more info than at any time.

As said before thanks for your time and service. Firemack has you on the right track the Mack Museum was a great help to me, you may also want to check out www.spaamfaa.org ,they are a good place for help and parts for fire trucks.

Good Luck with your Rig.

Ray

I have the opportunity to purchase a 1946 Mack 45 Fire Engine. From the pictures it appears to be in pretty good condition. The owner reports that he last ran the engine on it two years ago, it has been stored indoors ever since, he is not sure if the pump works on it. I do not know very much about 1946 Mack 45 Fire Engines so I'm hoping someone on here has lots of information for me. The owner says that Mack only made a small number of these type so therefore it is rare and worth more, I would definitely like to know if thats true or not. He is also looking to get $6000 for it at the very minimum. Wondering if anyone thinks thats a decent price for it or significantly too high. Thanks for the help, looking forward to seeing some responses.

I saw the rig on Ebay, I don't think It's that rare of a truck. I have a 1941 Model 505 which is also a 500gpm pumper. As for the price that is up to ones liking, looking at the pics you may bring the paint back to life, but he is not sure of the pump. To me $6 big ones is tops as she stands. That's my two cents.

Good Luck, Ray

That a great looking 68 CF , I alway like the early CF's with just the bars across the front. When the rigs were rebuild they then had the full aluminum front. My Dept. in N.J. has a 1975 CF inservice with less than 15,000 on the gage. Best of luck with your Rig. Are you a member of SPAAMFAA ?

Ray

Interesting. A Mack plate on what appears to be a Seagrave.... Hmmmmm.

Art, you are right there is a pic at the top of a Seagrave, and the other pics are of a Mack with a broken windshield and open fire pump under the seat. the Seagrave has a closed in pump. Also the paint is two different shades.

Ray

Gentlemen,

I'm hoping to get my 1948 Mack Type 45 under cover and running in the next couple of weeks before the snow flies. Not being of sound mechanical knowledge, I look to anyone on this board for suggestions as to where to start this process. Some background: engine was last turned over in June of '07. It is a Continental 330 four-cycle gasoline engine with all six cylinders cast in one block. Rebuilt in 1984. Several people have told me to lubricate the crap out of it before turning it over and I could not agree more. Certain that I have condensation in the gas tank so I'm wondering if I should siphon it or does it have a drain plug? Have the battery on a charger right now. I'd certainly appreciate anyone out there who could provide a little insight/direction as to where to start and what products are best suited for this initial start after a couple of years of inactivity. The MORE DETAIL, the better as suggestions come in....

Thanks.

I would say you should check & change the oil once you have turned the engine over with the booster reel crank handle. See if you have any water or antifreeze in the oil that you drained out. If this OK check for a good spark. For fuel use a separate gas can. I know this is not everything, but you should be able to get a good handle on it. Along with the words from Kenny.

Ray

Hello All, My name is John from Long Island. I am a fireman and currently have possession of two CF-600 pumpers. One was originally purchased new by my dept in 1968 and sold in 1984. We found it in Conn a few years ago and got it back. The other is a 1971 almost identical to our 68. Both are still in great condition. My main reason for signing up for the sight is for troubleshooting and a source for spare parts. It seems we can't get parts here on LI. Glad to be here.

Hi John, Great to have you on board, always nice to have another Fireman in the house. Let us know what you need, there is someone here who can help. Ray

Hello all!

Just picked up my first Mack project, its a 1930 Mack model BL. It needs a LOT of love but we will get there! what a cool site and I am sure we will be on here a lot!

thanks

Corey

Welcome onto the site Corey. Post pics when can so we can watch your project.

Ray

Recently purchased a1948 Mack Type 45 500 gpm that my dad broke in on with the Billerica, MA fire dept. back in the late 50's. Have been quietly searching for the 1966 B-95 that I remember playing on as a kid with no luck. Googled "Billerica Engine 2" by chance and discovered its predecessor! Even better - it was located 2 towns over from me!!! How about that for my Irish Luck?!

My dad has passed, but I have been able to re-connect with many of his former "brothers" and they are more excited than me about the find and restoration project ahead. The overall condition is pretty good as it was in service from '66-83 before spending time as a training apparatus before being sold. The gentlemen who purchased it had intentions of making it a farm truck (ouch!), but never really got around to it. It ran for the last time in June 2007 and has sat ever since. I'm hoping to undertake it's complete restoration with the understanding that it will take some doing both financially and physically. Told my wife it was either a Corvette, a Blond or the Fire Truck - she commended me on my ultimate decision....

Stay tuned as I begin this process - I'm sure I'll be asking plenty of questions. I want to make the best of this and do it right (within reason) to get it back to its former self.

Picture from the Mack Museum and it's present state.

The Rig looks great, with some TLC you will have a very nice truck. If you need any help give a call. I see the hub caps missing due you have them? The truck looks like it is mainly all there. Best of luck.

Ray

Hello fellow Mack fans,

I am looking for some help in finding a hood for my 1958 Mack fire truck. The hood has the model number B475 on it, and this one is damaged beyond reasonable repair. The estimate I have gotten is $2500. (OUCH) I have just recently purchased this truck and I am looking to restore it. I am new tothis environment, and have not taken ona project like this before. I work for a fire department here and have always been interested in the older fire trucks. I love Mack trucks and this truck just fell into my lap. If anybody has any ideas for me for replacing this hood, I would be grateful.

Thank You

Chris Jacks

(208) 750-0319.

Hi Chris, Great to have you on the site. You may want to go to WWW.SPAAMFAA. ORG the site is for antique fire trucks and there are a lot of Mack owners, who may also have what you are looking for.

Ray

1941 505 E model Mack

I have a 1939 mack model 80 pumper. does anyone have any info on these? to my knowledge there is only two of these.

When you ask if there are more then two Model 80's, is that for the year 1939 or the run of the model? In the SPAAMFAA apparatus guide there are two 1939 models ,one in FL. and one in NH. and in other years there are some four more not adding Model 80-L or 80-LS. You may want to call the Mack Museum to get a better handle on this. Good Luck

Ray

Hello all, My name is Jason and im a firefighter from Harrisburg, PA. I just bought my first truck and i think it is a good start. My truck is a B85F Tiller truck with a 707b engine. My department has no original tillers left except this truck. This truck was the first in Harrisburg in several areas. It was the first metal aerial the city ever owned. All previous were wooden mechanical and spring operated ladder trucks. Being a metal aerial another first was the tillers seat being located behind the ladder instead of on the ladder. This truck was purchased brandnew in 1957 for $39,347. It ran out of the busiest truck company the Allison H & L Co. no. 12. The city sold the truck to a volunteer fire house in 1958 for roughly $2500. After about 9 years of use that department sold it to private collectors in michigan. The truck had a very good home for the last 15 years until this last april when i finally brought the rig back home to harrisburg. The tractor and trailer are original to each other but the tractor has been restored. Mechanically they both work well. There are some odd and end things that i need to work on but give me something to do.

I personally have been a fan of the AC Macks and CF macks. I started my fire service career riding CF600's and came to love these trucks.. After buying a B-model I think i have fallen even harder for this model truck. Im very excited to learn as much as i can from everyone.

Jason (Allison)

The photos below show the truck currently and back in 1969 during the riots in Harrisburg. (The reason for the Plexiglas)

Welcome to Bmt. Great to have another Fire Truck on board. Well you be talking it to the Harrisburg Muster in July? I always liked that Muster when we lived in N.J., but now that I am in S.C. it's a little too far to go .

Good Luck with your Rig

Ray

Firemack:

You recently advised that Shell Rotella T SAE 40W oil would be a good choice for my Mack 707C gasoline engine. I note that Shell has this in 5W-40W and 15W-40W; which should I buy and how many quarts does the 707C need?

Also, I read the old posts from last fall about the issue of oil filters for the 707C. Was that ever resolve as to what would work as a replacement? Barry's shop advised me a couple of weeks ago that the Mack 236GB222 oil filter crosses with FRAM C147, BALDWIN C36M, and NAPA 1237; none of these appear to be made any longer. They also crossed it to the WIX 51503 which, in turn, crosses to the NAPA 1503.

Your help or any elses on both issues would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Gary M. Belt

Manassas, VA

Hi Gary, I have been using 40W on my 1941 E Model for the passed 14 yrs., but not 5W-40W or 15W-40W. My engine is a CT 6, but that's just my pick of oil.

Good Luck,

Ray

Hi Tim, good to see you on board. I thing I saw that rig moving water on 4-4-09 ? (Ha,Ha) If you are looking for anything for the L Model give me a ring. Again great to have you out there.

Ray

Can someone tell me which Mack truck (probably 1931-1939) the Stromberg SF-4 24 22D 2AC3161 carb was used on, please? I need some info on it. Thanks.

Best that I can tell you is at my 1941 Model 505 fire truck has a CT engine with a SF-4 cab. That is the most I know about it's us on a Mack, they were also used on American La France Type 400 V-12 engines (1932-1938). Check with the Mack Museum, but they may be backed up with a lot of other work, so it may take some time for them to get back to you.

Best for now Tinman

Thanks it has the normal north rust that will have to be fixed but a little polish and she'll be good as new.

Glad to see you up on the forum site, also great handle. You said you were in need of Gold Bulldogs for the Mack, so it has a Maxadyne engine.

Good Luck, Tinman

I am just removing that verey panel, head lights and all with small red lights in tact.

It's coming off of a 1962 Mack CF.

I have and will not use (up for grabs) the complete pump panel, windshield

and all other glass,doors, hose tray(2 of em) head gaskets etc,etc. Also the Hale 750

pump needs a home bad.

I am restoring a 1953 Mack pumper and this is my sorce truck for parts.

I am in Del Rio Texas near the end of the earth but your part is relivtivy light

so shipping should"t be too bad. Let me know if I can be of any help.

Love those Macks.

Dave Casey

maxbrother@aol.com

Chief C , I don't believe that 1962 Mack is a CF, it most likely is a C. Mack started making CF's in 1968-69.

Ray , Ex Chief Fair Haven FD, NJ

It has plates on the top for access but what is the best kind of paint to use?

You can sand blast it out and put a pick up truck bed liner paint or ges tank sealer on it. You can also get a replacement plastic tank.

Tinman

Linmac, If you send the ser.# to the Mack Museum, they will in turn send you any info. they have about that rig. You should be able to find them at Mack.com. I think there is a link at this web site? Good Luck with your ,also you might want to take a look at SPAAMFAA.Org site it is for Fire Truck owners. Tinman ( Ray )