Popular Post NycHeavyIron Posted July 19 Popular Post Share Posted July 19 Something a little different, the CCC Integrated Rear Loader (I.R.L). DSNY used these trucks until the mid to late 2000's when they started switching out the diesel fleet. These trucks were packing monsters and held gobs of trash. What made these trucks unique is that the had no chassis, the body of the truck was the chassis/frame and everything was attached to it. They had Detroit Diesel 466E Pancake (Lay down) engines which were suspended under the body of the truck. The frame that sits above the cab is actually the housing for the packing blade piston. The exhaust and ac/heat unit also sits on this housing above the cab. They were true low entry trucks sitting only 14 inches high. The cab was also open and you were able to walk through it to the other side. The single axle versions of these trucks were incredibly rare in the DSNY fleet. The hopper was 3.5 yards and the body of the truck was 25 yards with some units being 31 yards. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 They got a plow too ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycHeavyIron Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 Yes! Everything gets plowed up in New York. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NycHeavyIron Posted July 20 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 20 Here is one of the 31 yard trucks plowing in the blizzard of 2006 in Manhattan 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 I had heard (I think from Glenn Akers) that their differentials were highly sought after the trucks were scrapped. They were Eaton double reduction (2 spds locked in low). 2 spd tandems aren't easy to find used anymore. Easy to convert to 2 spd for heavy haul. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Years back, I used to bring the "bridge mix (CG90) down . I don't ever remember noticing any of the plow equipment. Funny what you never paid attention to 30 some years ago (lol) All these trucks with plows..... where would you push snow to in The City ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Just now, Geoff Weeks said: I had heard (I think from Glenn Akers) that their differentials were highly sought after the trucks were scrapped. They were Eaton double reduction (2 spds locked in low). 2 spd tandems aren't easy to find used anymore. Easy to convert to 2 spd for heavy haul. I ordered my '21 Peterbilt with 2 speeds. They seemed to think I was nuts at the dealer (lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Yeah, I love the DT's I put in my Marmon to replace the DS's . A little more upfront but make the truck. I never bought new so was always up grading as I went along. I did order one trailer on "spokes" the dealer tried to talk me into something on the lot, talked alot about "re-sale", I told him the scrap man pays the same regardless, so I want what I want! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 But nobody uses those .....said the salesman who doesn't have a clue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 I'd rather have a properly spec'd ratio 2spd axle and a 13 trans than an 18 or 6X4 for heavy work. 6x4 has a slight advantage on ratio spread, but it has the drawback of putting all the multiplied torque through the driveshaft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 Exactly. Highest was 3.70/5.04 I used a gay FRO cause it was all I could get. Did my reduction on the axle. Couldn't see any way to take advantage of the engine and get it through soft ground loaded . I like it, works pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoff Weeks Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 I bought used (cores) and re ratio'd to 4.11 (5.56?) I don't remember the low ratio off the top of my head, but went from 3.90's single speeds, and the fuel economy jumped nearly 1 mpg. I've got a 15 O/D in front of them, which is not the ideal match. If I was still running it, I would put a late model 13 in front. Sure wish I had all that reduction when I moved my heaviest loads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycHeavyIron Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 36 minutes ago, Mark T said: Years back, I used to bring the "bridge mix (CG90) down . I don't ever remember noticing any of the plow equipment. Funny what you never paid attention to 30 some years ago (lol) All these trucks with plows..... where would you push snow to in The City ? They bury the cars parked on the side of the street😆 They used to have snow blowers that would remove the snow banks but guys were taking in cars with them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycHeavyIron Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 39 minutes ago, Geoff Weeks said: I had heard (I think from Glenn Akers) that their differentials were highly sought after the trucks were scrapped. They were Eaton double reduction (2 spds locked in low). 2 spd tandems aren't easy to find used anymore. Easy to convert to 2 spd for heavy haul. They were very good in the snow. I remember them being geared low and having a Y-Shifter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark T Posted July 20 Share Posted July 20 What's a " Y " shifter ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycHeavyIron Posted July 20 Author Share Posted July 20 The Y shifter was unique to the NYC spec trucks, because they were dual steer, the shifter sat in between the seats and could be moved to either side to be shifted. It was shaped like a Y 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h67st Posted July 21 Share Posted July 21 I thought it was 'cause the driver said "Y" did I take a job picking up trash in NYC?! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NycHeavyIron Posted July 22 Author Share Posted July 22 19 hours ago, h67st said: I thought it was 'cause the driver said "Y" did I take a job picking up trash in NYC?! That too! 😆 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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