What Will they reinvent next!???

[fjh 751]

So We received a New  Anthem to PDI this Week, So while doing the check over We notice ! Hey!They have removed the Air  governor It is no longer on the fire wall were they have been mounted for the last 20 years! Hmmm, went on the the search for the little guy! Yup no where to be found , so we had the parts guy look up the air drier as this seemed to be the only place it could be . Sure enough the governor Is Now built into the Air Drier ! Grrrrreat ! Now when you have issues with compressor build and the like, there is now no cheap way to  check anything !We looked at the price for this fine piece of equipment ! Only 1700  dollars !The cartridge A bargain At 300 bucks Never priced the Little governor piece However  you can bet It will be Cheap🤑 and easy to find😨! Makes me wonder Why We have to over complicate the simple ! That being said It Likely comes down to captivation or The Fact the air on these newer units need Air to be dri  to run the M trans and And the emissions components, this unit may be more efficient in someones mind ! However I can't see the savings in removing a ten dollar valve and 8 feet of plastic tube  and replacing it with a 1700 dollar piece of crap that will likely Fail in three years Cause no one can afford the cartridge every year!  Again I don't no the specifics on this unit It may be the best thing since sliced bread when dring air, However guess its going to be tested on our next truck sale! Still looking on the internet to see which company is selling this unit. and what Its selling features are compared to the older wabco or bendix units!  will post it when I find it! SO I managed to find this unit it is  called a  SYSTEM SAVER HP AIR DRYER   Didn't realize there were others out there, possibly worse. possibly better who knows anyway  We will see how resilient it is in a couple of years! 

Check it out here  https://f01.justanswer.com/diesel3153/c9883f39-a857-4660-8748-c053bac5015b_Wabco_dryer_info.pdf 🙄

IF IT AIN'T BROKE FIX IT ANYWAY! 😡

Edited January 24 by fjh

[storkmack 746]

The governor has been on the firewall way longer than 20 years.    

Edited January 24 by storkmack

[85snowdog 739]

Just wanted to be clear. I didn't like this post because I thought this was a good idea. I just find it very interesting how everything today has to become so complicated .  

I spoke with a person yesterday that is sending their new trucks to the auction and rebuilding their older trucks. 

[fjh 751]

34 minutes ago, 85snowdog said:

Just wanted to be clear. I didn't like this post because I thought this was a good idea. I just find it very interesting how everything today has to become so complicated .  

I spoke with a person yesterday that is sending their new trucks to the auction and rebuilding their older trucks. 

Thanx for the Like ! But If It wasn't evident Already ! My Feelings Are the same AS yours! Hence the reason to post it! I appreciate the like However, Just putting it out there to show everyone where the Industry is heading.  If That were not evident already ! Just Adding insult to injury with this new stuff Yup putting the governor on the air drier is fine!  KW has been doing it for ever But they use the same 40/50  year old governor > Cheap! This new thing not so much! If you were smart enough to have not traded your old units in your in good shape ! However There are places now that Won't allow old rigs on the claim , trying  to be or pretending to be environmentally Conscious !  Keeps the banks and the truck industry happy and the guy tring to make a living Broke!

 

VOLVO TRASH

Edited January 24 by fjh

[Vmac3 63]

Hey F you forgot about the clutch actuated air compressor . I have no idea as to why they made these changes. But a clutch actuated water pump and air compressor I get, they figure they will reduce emissions by .001% per truck and with the thousands of trucks out there it may make a change in reducing emissions. But the catch is how much will it cost to replace? How many owner operators have gone bankrupt because the excessive cost of repairs because of emissions related failures? Ive known a few and thats a few too many.

V

[fjh 751]

Oh Buddy! Don"t get me goin didn't forget about it ! This truck is equipped  with the teck water pump But not the compressor disconnect Odviously Cause IM sure that unit will include its Own Fricking module and Some Tecky relay to run the dam thing!  And  For Sure absolutely no Air Governor! Just some fiber optic Cable to magically turn it on or something! 😂And as a Maintenance Task you will need to replace clutch packs every three years or something! See Ya got me Going !

Stop now 🥵

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Mackpro 417]

Last I heard they did discontinue the clutched air compressor but the on/off water pump is still an option and maybe standard now. Our 2018 and 2019 do not have the on/off water pump but our 2020.5 has it . Also our 2020.5 has the air governor in the air compressor. Back in the ASET days we had a fleet of CXN tanker trucks with the same air drier/air governor set up. Our 2020.5 trucks also have 2 oil filters instead of 3 and also no fuel return line coming off the head. They did away with the electric fuel pressure valve on the fuel rail . This was a common issue as all our common rail engine trucks have had them and the harness replaced . 

[fjh 751]

2 hours ago, Mackpro said:

Last I heard they did discontinue the clutched air compressor but the on/off water pump is still an option and maybe standard now. Our 2018 and 2019 do not have the on/off water pump but our 2020.5 has it . Also our 2020.5 has the air governor in the air compressor. Back in the ASET days we had a fleet of CXN tanker trucks with the same air drier/air governor set up. Our 2020.5 trucks also have 2 oil filters instead of 3 and also no fuel return line coming off the head. They did away with the electric fuel pressure valve on the fuel rail . This was a common issue as all our common rail engine trucks have had them and the harness replaced . 

Good to see your still hanging out Bro ! Thanx for the update on the botched ideas floating about ! Ahh so that drier may not be committed to as a standard issue !? We have had to convert several trucks to twin cyl  compressors due to the hi air draw of the /M trans in certain work environments, In these cases the sales poeple need to change the specs when ordering vocational  !  Amazingly enough,   The (common Rail ) engines have been relatively OK and almost problem Free so far here ! The main issues are usually Emissions or wiring issues due  to our environment Salt brine  on the roads and so dollar store lighting issues, That go along with newly Untested VOLVO LIKE  parts bought thru whom ever supplies things! Because we live in a wet climate air drier cartridges need to be changed Often to protect The temperamental HI module and reg or you end up replacing them like cord wood! Don't imagine its any different In KW or PETE land!  

[topo 33]

What will they reinvent  next    The electric switch   it  turns something on or off    it needs a price cap of no more then  4 bucks  no mater what it turns on or off or how it dose it .

[Mackpro 417]

8 hours ago, fjh said:

Good to see your still hanging out Bro ! Thanx for the update on the botched ideas floating about ! Ahh so that drier may not be committed to as a standard issue !? We have had to convert several trucks to twin cyl  compressors due to the hi air draw of the /M trans in certain work environments, In these cases the sales poeple need to change the specs when ordering vocational  !  Amazingly enough,   The (common Rail ) engines have been relatively OK and almost problem Free so far here ! The main issues are usually Emissions or wiring issues due  to our environment Salt brine  on the roads and so dollar store lighting issues, That go along with newly Untested VOLVO LIKE  parts bought thru whom ever supplies things! Because we live in a wet climate air drier cartridges need to be changed Often to protect The temperamental HI module and reg or you end up replacing them like cord wood! Don't imagine its any different In KW or PETE land!  

Some of our common rail engines are now over 200,000 miles and still trouble free ( all MP8) other than the fuel rail valve and pressure sensor, there are CBR bulletins on replacing them with upgrade parts and also replacing both  under valve cover injector harnesses.  However we still have issues with random things. Our biggest issues right now are the Mack inter wheel locks blowing apart . I wish we would order them with the inter-axle air power divider only.  Also our Mack T-310 trans seem to really like to go back the dealership for hi/low synchro replacement every 18-24 months. Our last 3 new trucks have the M-drive transmissions and drivers fight over who gets to drive them . I love them , less clutch’s I have to adjust. The LCM ( light control module) that was brought over from Volvo has been an adventure. A simple lighting issue is now a major pain the the butt. ABS wiring in the frame rails shorting out the rear wheel speed sensors now cause the speedometer to quit working and derate due to speedo tampering parameter on . Had three trucks in a week have this issue. Also we have found  loose main ground wire on the inside of the cab at the pass through on the firewall above the throttle pedal to be the cause of many intermittent random fault codes .