Tire replacement on my B61

[Frank Y 43]

I will be needing new drive tires on the truck for next year. Old ones are cracking crossways in the tread cap. The tires that are on the truck now are 11.00-22. Im having a heck of a time finding anyone who has 22" tires and no luck finding used ones, in any condition. Is it correct that with dayton hubs that fit a 22" rim, 24.5" rims will also fit? Would I be time and money ahead just dumping the 22's and finding 24.5 dayton rims and tires? I know the 22's and 24.5's are not original to the truck, but I would still like to keep the spoke hubs, and I like the slightly added road speed.

Sumitomo still makes a 11r22 tire, but from what Ive found theyre the only one. Im only guessing that I will have an even harder time in the future finding 22's.

Thanks

Frank

[Brian L Blaylock 72]

Someone else please correct me if I’m wrong I think that a 11-24.5 tire with the correct rim will work in place of the 11:00 22 but will not be quite as wide across the tread

[Maddog13407 2,199]

dump the 10.00 or 11.00 22 and put some 11 24.5's on it youll be happier and they ride better and they are available anywhere. 1000 22 is equal to an 11 24.5 and a 1100 22 is equal to a 12 24.5... might have to play with spacers and wedges on back but youll be much happier. stock Macks had 3 5/8 spacers on the back

[Frank Y 43]

But just to confirm, the 24.5 tires will not fit on the 22" rim?

Edited December 16, 2020 by Frank Y

[Brocky 1,233]

Frank, NO they will not!! The 22" rim is a tube type and the 24.5 is a Tubeless rim.. But as said above the 24.5 tubeless rims WILL fit on the 22" spokes..

[Red Horse 1,625]

And to confirm, if you have 11R -24's you are screwed!???

[Red Horse 1,625]

3 hours ago, Red Horse said:

And to confirm, if you have 11R -24's you are screwed!???

Screwed in the sense you  find new 24's, decent used ones  or you change your hubs.

[Maddog13407 2,199]

screwed that there is not an 11.26.5 or screwed when you open your wallet for a 1100x24??

[Frank Y 43]

Thanks everybody for your knowledge. As suggested I'll be dropping the 22s and looking for 24.5 rims and tires. I have a few leads in my area. Hoping one will pan out. 

Frank

[mowerman 2,238]

I have the same issue,,, need all ten ... 10-20 spoke split rims .. I am hoping to find tubeless rims for at least reasonable price . I’m expecting to open wallet real wide.. Best of luck to you... bob

[mowerman 2,238]

I didn’t realize 22s were so hard to fine they were really popular a few years ago at least out here... bob

[davehummell 448]

Frank I see you're in Lehighton I'm about 1and 1/2 hours away there is a truck junkyard up from me that will probably have the rims and tires used that you need Summit core supply 570-983-4105 the owner is Dave Drake and he sold me quite a few items for I thought a reasonable price. He had the last time I was to his place a big pile of mounted tires I got four aluminum hub mount rims with three about brand new drive caps and one about 3/4 tread for I thought give away prices. There is a large truck yard at around Hazelton A-1 I think they sell tires and rims you will pay a lot more. 

[Quickfarms 527]

7 hours ago, mowerman said:

I didn’t realize 22s were so hard to fine they were really popular a few years ago at least out here... bob

Due to cost the popular tire is a 22.5

[Frank Y 43]

15 hours ago, Quickfarms said:

Due to cost the popular tire is a 22.5

But apparently that would mean changing the hubs also iffin you have spokes. Pilots may be different. D/k

[mowerman 2,238]

im hoping to find some takeoffs from container chassis,,,they use 10-20 im thinking you also have 20 inch spokes.....im not sure...bob

[Frank Y 43]

19 minutes ago, mowerman said:

im hoping to find some takeoffs from container chassis,,,they use 10-20 im thinking you also have 20 inch spokes.....im not sure...bob

My spokes measure 21 3/8 across. Or more specifially the inside of the open rim. The tires on it now are 22s. The rear was apparently changed to a new-er rear. The speedo is off by about 15% even with the small gearbox.

[mowerman 2,238]

OK gotcha I know they do make 22 fives and 24 fives Rims to fit 20 inch hubs You can also go to our speedo shop and have them give you a gear to match Truck speed or at least you used to be able to do that I am starting to think those old speedo shops are probably outdated now

[Quickfarms 527]

1 hour ago, mowerman said:

OK gotcha I know they do make 22 fives and 24 fives Rims to fit 20 inch hubs You can also go to our speedo shop and have them give you a gear to match Truck speed or at least you used to be able to do that I am starting to think those old speedo shops are probably outdated now

22.5 fit 20” spiders

24.5 fit 22” spiders
 

at least this is my understanding, and is due to how the tires are measured 

 

there are still Speedo shops around. And gear adapters are still available. A lot of speedometers after the 80’s are electronic and calibrated by changing switches on the back of the speedometer  

[Frank Y 43]

2 hours ago, Quickfarms said:

22.5 fit 20” spiders

24.5 fit 22” spiders

And for future searchers, 1000-20 for the 20" spiders and 1000-22 for 22" spiders. I guess spiders and spokes are regional terms like soda and pop.

[Maddog13407 2,199]

i dunno why so many are stuck on two and three piece rims and bias ply tires. yes they look better and more period correct on an older truck but if you plan on runnin it at all put the damn tubeless on it and be done with it. real 22's are nonexhistent and real 20's are china junk that are used on container chassis, for a reason, they are JUNK!. 

 

[Quickfarms 527]

18 hours ago, Maddog13407 said:

i dunno why so many are stuck on two and three piece rims and bias ply tires. yes they look better and more period correct on an older truck but if you plan on runnin it at all put the damn tubeless on it and be done with it. real 22's are nonexhistent and real 20's are china junk that are used on container chassis, for a reason, they are JUNK!. 

 

Lately I have seen a bunch of container chassis that are running 22.5 tires

 

I have tube tires on a few older trucks, that I keep local, only until they wear out

 

 

[609albert 60]

Just put all new rims and tires 1100 - 22.5 radials on my 54 Mack LS85 fire truck ,what a better ride and SAFER  ,replace 900 - 20's w/tubes and 3 pc..rims ( spoke wheels on truck) .they are easy to find, the truck repair shop also did my friends 53 Mack ,and yes the tires are from China

[mrsmackpaul 2,546]

I think most tyres are from China or India now, even the good brands

 

Paul

[mowerman 2,238]

i think your right..and also very expensive........bob

[mowerman 2,238]

We use nothing but Michelin at home here in my company uses them they tell me the big ones are 500 a piece 11-24s But I am sure they are made here