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When Chevrolet's Titan 90 ran like a Deere

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Wouldn't surprise me- GM and Deere were quite close in the 80s with Deere involved in the manufacture of the 4 cylinder "Iron Duke" engine for GM. Deere also built trucks for a while, a stripped chassis that was the foundation for step vans for Continental Baking and motorhomes.

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I had know idea John Deere had any involvement with GM and the Iron Duke. That might explain why they were such a great little engine.

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Never heard of the iron duke

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iron duke was a 4 cylinder iron block from the late 70's early 80's for pontiac.

sorta like the chevy 153 used in the chevy II/nova in the 60's

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The 151 cubic inch (2.5-litre) in-line four cylinder Pontiac "Iron Duke" was also the standard engine in the Jeep CJ5, CJ-7 and CJ-8 for four years over the 1980-83 period.

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12 minutes ago, kscarbel2 said:

The 151 cubic inch (2.5-litre) in-line four cylinder Pontiac "Iron Duke" was also the standard engine in the Jeep CJ5, CJ-7 and CJ-8 for four years over the 1980-83 period.

Yup. AMC was in dire straits during that timeframe till the Chrysler Corporation bought them up replacing the GM engine with the 4.0ltr "Jeep" engine. Funny thing about that engine was that it was a basic modification to the original 232 AMC engine from about 1963 with a different head and induction system through the years.

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iron duke was in every postal delivery truck in the country In the 80's. also in most smaller puddle. jumper Chevy Celebrities and Pontiacs and OLdsmobiles. least with the Mail Jeeps the put the engine in the right way!

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Also used in the Postal Jeep's successor, the LLV. until it was replaced by the 2.2.

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Back in the '80s the largest Articulated John Deere Tractor had a V8 Motor. I have a Funny Feeling the block was cast by GM. or there was some Non John Deere source for It...

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I had a massey harris 22 the engine was shot so I put the iron duke and a 3 speed in the tractor that engine ran real good had a woodward govener on it. When I was young my cousin had a chevy 2 stationwagon with that engine she run the crap out of that car. didn't they use a head of a 283?

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I had a 1937 Chevy two (2) door Sedan that had a 283 in it that was taken out of a bulldozer. Pretty sure a 283 engine was not original or stock in the bulldozer. I'm guessing a previous owner retro fitted the engine in the Dozer. Another die hard engine Chevy (GM) 283 Small Block. I can not say with 100% certainty but most if not all 283's were factory equipped with Power Pack Heads. Can't say at all what head was fitted to or on the Iron Duke.

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9 hours ago, Maddog13407 said:

iron duke was in every postal delivery truck in the country In the 80's. 

not the iron duke, that was the chevy 153 4 cylinder. it was replaced with the AMC 4.o six cylinder starting in the early 70's when AMC took over jeep brand. 

1 hour ago, davehummell said:

I had a massey harris 22 the engine was shot so I put the iron duke and a 3 speed in the tractor that engine ran real good had a woodward govener on it. When I was young my cousin had a chevy 2 stationwagon with that engine she run the crap out of that car. didn't they use a head of a 283?

same with your cousins chevy II, it had a chevy 153 4 cylinder, not an "iron duke"

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11 hours ago, j hancock said:

Mr. Hancock pegged it.

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July 21, 1986

General Motors and Deere & Company have signed a memorandum of understanding to form a joint venture to design, manufacture and distribute diesel engines worldwide, the companies announced recently. The proposed corporation would be held equally by both parent companies. The agreement is subject to final negotiations and clearance by the federal antitrust authorities.

The joint venture will include the diesel engine operations of Deere & Company and the Detroit Diesel Allison Division of General Motors (DDA).

F. James McDonald, president of General Motors, and Robert A. Hanson, chairman and chief executive officer, Deere & Company, issued this joint statement: "General Motors and Deere & Company believe this proposed joint venture is a very positive step for the diesel engine operations of both companies.

The new organization will allow us to provide a full line of products that will benefit from combined resources in both technology and economies of scale in manufacturing.

These advantages, coupled with a strong distribution network and the considerable experience of management and production personnel from both companies, give us confidence that the new company will play a leadership role in the diesel industry." Officials predict annual sales of about $1.5 billion for the new company.

The new company is yet to be named and will be headquartered in the Detroit area. Senior management will be drawn from both GM and Deere. It is expected that the new firm will be in operation under its new name and management by January 1,1987.

The joint venture will utilize diesel engine facilities in the Detroit area presently operated by Detroit Diesel Allison Division of General Motors. These include the Redford heavy-duty diesel engine plant, the Romulus Parts Distribution Center and the Romulus Engineering Center.

Also included will be the tools and machinery used to manufacture the Detroit Diesel 8.2L medium-duty engines now being built by GM's Chevrolet-Pontiac-GM of Canada (CPC) group which recently acquired DDA's Romulus diesel engine manufacturing facility. The 8.2L engine will be a part of the new joint venture's line.

The Deere & Company facilities to be utilized include the Waterloo, Iowa, diesel engine plant and a diesel engine plant in Saran, France.

Engines will also be provided from the Dubuque, Iowa, factory, which will continue to be part of Deere & Company. These three facilities supply engines for John Deere agricultural and industrial equipment as well as for use by other customers in marine and industrial applications and generator sets.

All other DDA operations will remain with GM, and other operations of Deere & Company will be unaffected.

The combined product line gives the new company a complete range of diesel engines from 50 hp to 2,000 hp, with a wide variety of configurations to meet virtually every application need.

Detroit Diesel Allison has been marketing the John Deere line of diesel engines through its worldwide sales organization for the past year, under an earlier agreement. The two companies also have been cooperating under a technical agreement for joint engineering efforts on new products. These actions have provided continuity and direction while the joint venture has been under study.

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John Deere played a big part in the design of the Series 60.

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1 hour ago, Bullheaded said:

John Deere played a big part in the design of the Series 60.

Well now I didn’t know that. Very interesting.

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In 1989 I was at a seminar put on to discuss tech issues on the Series 60, a question was asked about Deere's involvement with Detroit in the design of the 60. It was answered with a resounding {No}.

But that Deere was building or had built major components was noted.  

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