Jamaican Bulldog Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 I figured I would have some fun and ask this question here because it seriously crossed my mind. If I (or anyone else here) won the powerball $1 billion would it be enough to buy Mack and would it be worth it if the aim is to again make it a true American brand of top quality and innovative trucks to compete globally? Of course there are many lucrative things one could invest a billion in or what ever is left after tax, but could a stand alone Mack be profitable and viable in this day an age? I think even if it was weaned from Volvo it may still need joint venture partners. I am not sure how much Mack is worth but If I won and could buy it for a price while having millions left to invest in other profitable ventures I would do it and tap the passionate brain trust here to get it going. I am sure others here are probably thinking the same 😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted October 18, 2018 Share Posted October 18, 2018 well first off, if you win one billion in the lottery, the government is going to take 50% off the top in taxes, so you will only have 500 million to play with. and i think vulva has done so much damage to the Mack name that it will never bounce back to the glory it once had no matter what anyone does. 2 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxbxc Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Plus Volvo has gutted the Mack infrastructure by taking over Hagerstown and the new river plant ,they would also structure any sale where the buyer would have to assume vast debt that they have incured, so basiclly you would be buying the Mack name and a truck assembly plant at mcaungie.Oh and the price would be somthing like 3 or 4 Billion dollars,so it would look good on the annual stock report. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 It sounds like the take away is the net proceeds from the billion dollar win wouldn't even be a good down payment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 41chevy Posted October 19, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2018 1 minute ago, HarryS said: It sounds like the take away is the net proceeds from the billion dollar win wouldn't even be a good down payment. That half is only the federal tax still got State of N.Y. and NYC tax and what ever borough or county tax . take the 2 million you'll end up with and buy an older MACK you like and have it made better than new. 3 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 11 minutes ago, 41chevy said: That half is only the federal tax still got State of N.Y. and NYC tax and what ever borough or county tax . take the 2 million you'll end up with and buy an older MACK you like and have it made better than new. ...and still have a little pocket change left over. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamaican Bulldog Posted October 19, 2018 Author Share Posted October 19, 2018 33 minutes ago, 41chevy said: That half is only the federal tax still got State of N.Y. and NYC tax and what ever borough or county tax . take the 2 million you'll end up with and buy an older MACK you like and have it made better than new. Lmao! such a more practical approach. The 'little' left after taxes may just be enough to save some old Macks from scarp yards or that were left derelict and restore to take to shows. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gxbxc Posted October 19, 2018 Share Posted October 19, 2018 Yup that's just take the left overs and build a Jay Leno type garage with restored Mack's. Be happy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 If they went back.to.being dependable, rugged and a service and repair network that knew stuff not saying all parts guys aren't smart some are and got rid of allthe plastic crap maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackey58 Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Have to buy back all the patent s and all hire some mack engineers that were pre vulva Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hatcity Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 what if you bought enough shares of Vo--o, took control, then fired half of them. Then rehired the MACK engineers of old and started a whole new re-birth Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maxidyne Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 If only it were so simple... First off, even if the tooling is still around, no way will the old Mack engines meet emissions. Transmission wise, the Maxitorques are still around and I doubt Volvo wants them, but half the market wants automated transmissions. So better call Cummins, Eaton, and Allison. The Mack axles are still around and competitive, same with the bogie, and frame rails could just use the standard dimensions and 34" spacing. Cab wise, the conventionals are old but still beat Volvo's on aerodynamics while the MR and LE will only sell in urban operations where survival is everything. To succeed on the world market a cabover is needed, and anybody seen where the MH tooling went? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HarryS Posted October 20, 2018 Share Posted October 20, 2018 Now you have to ask what if I win the $1.6 Billion jackpot. Still the same problem with those pesky taxes. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oso2 Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 The short answer is that in order to develop engines you need a global partnership - which means a lot of money. In order to sell trucks you need to sell to fleets; that means being aerodynamically competitive - which means a lot of money. And then there's the traditional business aspects like re-establishing dealerships; and if you want the best people as has been stated, you need to pay more than anyone else. All of which takes.....a lot of money. Short answer: the trucking industry has changed and a solely North American company can't cut it. P.S. Last time I checked, Navistar was looking at some kind of takeover/partnership with Volkswagon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swishy Posted December 6, 2018 Share Posted December 6, 2018 (edited) JamB Gudday m8 with a Billion U could buy Mack outright from the 'V'Bus mob n use all u're power $$$ to fight gumment to rid of the anti polltion Sheite n then we would/could/should have real truck WotSezU? cya Edited December 6, 2018 by Swishy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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