Alexar Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Hello Everyone, I am starting my career as a truck driver, soon to operate a 2002 MV322 Freedom 6.2L. As I understand it since it is from Mack's Renault period, any service documentation is hard to come by I have tried these sites ,https://pdfmanual4trucks.jimdo.com/mack/ , https://macktrucks.vg-emedia.com/InformationSearch.aspx?SearchId=591, to no avail. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 Try calling the Mack brand at +1 (866) 298-6586. I'm sure Volvo will fall all over themselves trying to help you (sarcasm on my part). https://macktrucks.vg-emedia.com/ProductListing.aspx?keyword=freedom https://macktrucks.vg-emedia.com/ProductListing.aspx?keyword=MV You have what would be a good truck (Renault Midlum).......if acceptable after-sales support was still available in North America. It isn't......not even close. Candidly speaking, you should sell it at the first opportunity, as parts will always have to be ordered, cost a fortune, and most mechanics have no experience working on it. Let it break someone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted April 14, 2018 Share Posted April 14, 2018 What is the real reason Volvo does not support this truck? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexar Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, TS7 said: What is the real reason Volvo does not support this truck? Propriety issues with Renault? Or Renault didn't leave sufficient documentation to work with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexar Posted April 14, 2018 Author Share Posted April 14, 2018 4 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: Try calling the Mack brand at +1 (866) 298-6586. I'm sure Volvo will fall all over themselves trying to help you (sarcasm on my part). https://macktrucks.vg-emedia.com/ProductListing.aspx?keyword=freedom https://macktrucks.vg-emedia.com/ProductListing.aspx?keyword=MV You have what would be a good truck (Renault Midlum).......if acceptable after-sales support was still available in North America. It isn't......not even close. Candidly speaking, you should sell it at the first opportunity, as parts will always have to be ordered, cost a fortune, and most mechanics have no experience working on it. Let it break someone else. Thanks, I will check for Renault Midlum manual since cab and engine are Renault made. Let's hope the initial low cost will cover the upkeep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 22 hours ago, Alexar said: Propriety issues with Renault? Or Renault didn't leave sufficient documentation to work with. The medium-duty Freedom, based on the global market Renault Midlum*, was launched in 2001. * The Midlum was replaced by the D Range in 2013. Volvo took full control of Renault and Mack in 2001. In 2003, Volvo decided to terminate the Freedom and walk away from medium-duty in North America (Mack had profited greatly from the Renault-produced Mid-Liner medium truck range from 1979). So the Freedom was only sold for 3 years, and hasn't been sold for 15 years. Also, Volvo Group's unofficial policy is not to support trucks over 10 years of age. It's a great truck, but the owner of the Mack name, Volvo, has no interest in supporting it in North America. Renault Trucks does a superb job with after-sales support in the global market, but has no presence in North America. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TS7 Posted April 15, 2018 Share Posted April 15, 2018 So a Mack (Volvo) dealer cannot get parts for these trucks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexar Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 3 hours ago, TS7 said: So a Mack (Volvo) dealer cannot get parts for these trucks? This is a Renault truck that had been slapped with a Mack logo, I don't think Renault is going to share anything with Volvo but it wouldn't hurt to try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexar Posted April 15, 2018 Author Share Posted April 15, 2018 19 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: The medium-duty Freedom, based on the global market Renault Midlum*, was launched in 2001. * The Midlum was replaced by the D Range in 2013. Volvo took full control of Renault and Mack in 2001. In 2003, Volvo decided to terminate the Freedom and walk away from medium-duty in North America (Mack had profited greatly from the Renault-produced Mid-Liner medium truck range from 1979). So the Freedom was only sold for 3 years, and hasn't been sold for 15 years. Also, Volvo Group's unofficial policy is not to support trucks over 10 years of age. It's a great truck, but the owner of the Mack name, Volvo, has no interest in supporting it in North America. Renault Trucks does a superb job with after-sales support in the global market, but has no presence in North America. Makes sense, I contacted Renault UK, for the kicks of it. Since as you said, Renault doesn't seem to have an office in North America. The truck in general doesn't seem to be in bad condition by the looks of it at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mackpro Posted April 17, 2018 Share Posted April 17, 2018 I believe Mack still has the manuals on E-media on their website. I bought 5 or 6 different service manuals for the Freedom right before the truck came out. Turns out between our 3 dealerships, we only got one Freedom truck to sell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alexar Posted April 28, 2018 Author Share Posted April 28, 2018 On 4/17/2018 at 9:03 AM, Mackpro said: I believe Mack still has the manuals on E-media on their website. I bought 5 or 6 different service manuals for the Freedom right before the truck came out. Turns out between our 3 dealerships, we only got one Freedom truck to sell. I used the brand name "Freedom" in the search bar, found some documentation. Will see. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igor2009 Posted May 15, 2018 Share Posted May 15, 2018 (edited) If you need some manuals, wiring diagrams & Fault codes, look at this TruckManuals or BestTruckManuals Edited June 9, 2022 by igor2009 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Choyke Posted April 15, 2022 Share Posted April 15, 2022 On 4/14/2018 at 6:05 PM, TS7 said: MV 322 Is a French Truck. Most parts have to order from Europe, Germany, etc. Dealers are unable to get parts. You need deep pockets, and endless resources for this truck. Find someone that has one for sell for parts, or sell this truck for parts to the highest bidder. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Texmenistan Posted May 12, 2022 Share Posted May 12, 2022 On 4/14/2018 at 3:14 PM, Alexar said: Hello Everyone, I am starting my career as a truck driver, soon to operate a 2002 MV322 Freedom 6.2L. As I understand it since it is from Mack's Renault period, any service documentation is hard to come by I have tried these sites ,https://pdfmanual4trucks.jimdo.com/mack/ , https://macktrucks.vg-emedia.com/InformationSearch.aspx?SearchId=591, to no avail. ..did you find your manual, or a link for a service manual for the Mack Freedom Box Truck MV322 truck? I drove one of these in 2003/4, for a Seko Worldwide subcontractor. It was the nicest and smoothest truck I've ever driven. The Internationals, and the other fleet vehicles were junk, or just poorly maintained. The Mack was brand new. It was the largest vehicle, I had ever driven. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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