steeler Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 11 hours ago, fjh said: Yup seen it happen a few times ! It even happened when it was a not Swedish owned ! How ever these guys can't really afford need to piss many more people off,small or big! Volvo/ Mack market share is dropping like a stone! Yup, Volvo sure has trashed Mack in my opinion. I mean, what's really left that is actually Mack? Transmission I guess, some suspension? They have even managed to screw up the diffs. Sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
navypoppop Posted May 31, 2019 Share Posted May 31, 2019 The best thing that can happen for Mack is to have Volvo spin them off and sell to a group of investors and let Mack become what it was, The Best Truck ever to grace the USA. Just like Autocar when it was let go, they made small compact trucks for trash haulers like Mack MR's and now they have a new conventional model coming out and hopefully it will take off and expand to a road tractor. Mack could do the same and go back to their engines and drive trains. Build them like before and hopefully the industry wide damage with not kill this great piece of American ability. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackcat12 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Share Posted July 5, 2019 Would you guys think I’m crazy if I was considering another MACK? Mack has offered me a hell of a deal on a new truck and a shocking amount for my truck on trade, the truck would have to be ordered because they don’t have what I want in stock, I would go with a MP8 engine and Allison transmission this time, got a bad taste in my mouth from the MP7 and Mdrive, I have priced other brands and they aren’t even close to the price MACK has quoted me, what do you guys think? Am I crazy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Until they fix injector & cup probablem; or if you can stand trading before warranty runs out, I couldn’t. Just don’t see trade in value on Mack’s until they fix the problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 I'd absolutely do it. Just remember, you only hear about the problems.....you never hear about the ones that just keep going. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 14 hours ago, mackcat12 said: Would you guys think I’m crazy if I was considering another MACK? Mack has offered me a hell of a deal on a new truck and a shocking amount for my truck on trade, the truck would have to be ordered because they don’t have what I want in stock, I would go with a MP8 engine and Allison transmission this time, got a bad taste in my mouth from the MP7 and Mdrive, I have priced other brands and they aren’t even close to the price MACK has quoted me, what do you guys think? Am I crazy? Also seen this happen this gets you possibly happy and they can sell this truck to someone that don't know any better! what ever works I guess! Usually comes with a keep you mouth shut stipulation I think!!🤔 The Mp8 is a some what better design in my mind however Don't expect good mileage with an allison! we have quite a few running here and are trouble free for the most part!Allison is a better choice for a dump configuration And almost any niny can drive it with out wrecking things! Leaves you open to letting your wife or girlfreind driving it for you while you sit home drinking beer! 😉 Edited July 5, 2019 by fjh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 Hush money is a hard earned commodity. Trad’er in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 28 minutes ago, Mack Technician said: Hush money is a hard earned commodity. Trad’er in! I agree; just don’t see putting good money in bad money. Especially AGAIN Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mack Technician Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 (edited) 51 minutes ago, 1965 said: I agree; just don’t see putting good money in bad money. Especially AGAIN I’m saying get another Mack. If they want you to be happy by giving you a fantastic deal.......take it! You earned it. The law of statistics says you won’t get another lemon. Quote of my Volvo/Mack factory trainer......”Longest lasting engine we sell is an MP8 at the lowest HP increment available”. Edited July 5, 2019 by Mack Technician Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted July 5, 2019 Share Posted July 5, 2019 9 minutes ago, Mack Technician said: I’m saying get another Mack. If they want you to be happy by giving you a fantastic deal.......take it! You earned it. The law of statistics says you won’t get another lemon. Quote of my Volvo/Mack factory trainer......”Longest lasting engine we sell is an MP8 at the lowest HP increment available”. I understand what your saying; BUT; Volvo/Mack trainer wouldn’t be good enough for me, just sayin. I believe the lower hp probably helps a bunch but it REALLY clarifies the problem. I don’t mean NO harm; just telling my opinion! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mackcat12 Posted July 5, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Mack Technician said: Hush money is a hard earned commodity. Trad’er in! I agree and I was shocked at the offer, I wasn’t expecting anything from them. I really haven’t heard anything bad about the MP8 there are not that many around here and the Allison has proven itself as bulletproof so I don’t think I can go wrong 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackcat12 Posted July 8, 2019 Author Share Posted July 8, 2019 Thanks guys for all your input, I ordered a new Mack Granite hope to have it at the end of October or first of November. fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Its to bad the wheel had to squeak so long to get greased , how ever at least it got some! Good luck with the new unit when it gets here bro! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackcat12 Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 Thanks fjh I appreciate that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdsMack1963 Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 The problem with today's Mack is the fact that it isn't a Mack just a Volvo in a Mack hood. I have owned a Mack truck for 35 years and this last one is the biggest piece of junk ever. It has been in the shop and on the hook more than the other ones put together.I could have paid cash for a brand new truck with all the repair bills and down time. Mack just turns a blind toward the problem. Factory rep said they are only designed to be a three year truck and anything after that was my problem. Built my home and family with a Mack truck and sent my children to college with one.So sad to see a great American product as this to just go down the toilet like this.I have to have one more truck to finish my career and you can bet it won't be a Mack this time around. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ksrolloff Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 1 hour ago, EdsMack1963 said: The problem with today's Mack is the fact that it isn't a Mack just a Volvo in a Mack hood. I have owned a Mack truck for 35 years and this last one is the biggest piece of junk ever. It has been in the shop and on the hook more than the other ones put together.I could have paid cash for a brand new truck with all the repair bills and down time. Mack just turns a blind toward the problem. Factory rep said they are only designed to be a three year truck and anything after that was my problem. Built my home and family with a Mack truck and sent my children to college with one.So sad to see a great American product as this to just go down the toilet like this.I have to have one more truck to finish my career and you can bet it won't be a Mack this time around. The truth has been spoken 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted January 11, 2020 Share Posted January 11, 2020 mackcat12 If your still out there and have indeed taken the bait on a new unit !!! How has your new unit been ? Are now satisfied with the new trucks performance? If you have been sworn to secrecy PM Me ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackcat12 Posted January 12, 2020 Author Share Posted January 12, 2020 fjh I have not received my truck yet the build date got delayed by the Mack strike then by thanksgiving,it finally got built and Was sent to Ox bodies on December 20, I talked to ox bodies yesterday and they started the dump body yesterday supposed to be delivered to my dealer on January 27 so as soon as I get it and put some miles on it I will give you an update. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackcat12 Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 I finally received my truck and I really love the MP8 and Allison combo this thing is a powerhouse, but this one has some bugs in it too, second day driving the hose coming off the expansion tank blew off leaving me stranded on the side of the road, the cheap clamps they used won’t hold the hose inside the nipple so they changed it so the hose slid over the nipple and put on a metal clamp.problem solved! Then a few days after that I noticed a puddle of antifreeze under the truck looked everywhere couldn’t find a leak anywhere, drove it all week and it didn’t leak anymore, came to work on Monday coolant was dripping really fast so I looked over the engine on the turbo side and I saw where it was coming from, the oil cooler🤦🏻 So you all know what’s involved in fixing that so after 4 days at the dealer I finally got it back yesterday morning and drove it all day, so far so good🤞🏻 I really do love this truck I guess it takes a while to get the bugs out of them but there shouldn’t be any for what I paid for this truck dealer said gasket was messed up from factory so hopefully everything else will be good, I’ll keep you guys updated. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 14 hours ago, mackcat12 said: I finally received my truck and I really love the MP8 and Allison combo this thing is a powerhouse, but this one has some bugs in it too, second day driving the hose coming off the expansion tank blew off leaving me stranded on the side of the road, the cheap clamps they used won’t hold the hose inside the nipple so they changed it so the hose slid over the nipple and put on a metal clamp.problem solved! Then a few days after that I noticed a puddle of antifreeze under the truck looked everywhere couldn’t find a leak anywhere, drove it all week and it didn’t leak anymore, came to work on Monday coolant was dripping really fast so I looked over the engine on the turbo side and I saw where it was coming from, the oil cooler🤦🏻 So you all know what’s involved in fixing that so after 4 days at the dealer I finally got it back yesterday morning and drove it all day, so far so good🤞🏻 I really do love this truck I guess it takes a while to get the bugs out of them but there shouldn’t be any for what I paid for this truck dealer said gasket was messed up from factory so hopefully everything else will be good, I’ll keep you guys updated. Thanks for reporting in Bro! Congrats ! semi Good news I suppose ! Would have been better You had no issues to start out with! however See what happens I guess Good Luck with this new found happiness hopefully all will proceed without any more glitches ! We are fighting with a simular issue as your old truck at the moment, We are getting the same blank stare from mother Mack , so hopefully we will find something on our own! Low power and pulsing boost for no good reason! the data capture prooved didly skwat ! c what happens I guess! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackcat12 Posted March 3, 2020 Author Share Posted March 3, 2020 Fjh I feel for you, if the data capture doesn’t show anything Mack doesn’t know what to do and won’t use any common sense to try to figure it out, hope you can figure it out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted March 3, 2020 Share Posted March 3, 2020 13 hours ago, mackcat12 said: Fjh I feel for you, if the data capture doesn’t show anything Mack doesn’t know what to do and won’t use any common sense to try to figure it out, hope you can figure it out . Not A problem Bro I ain't involved ! Unfortunately the data capture didn't show what is really going on boost is fluctuating under a steady hard pull makes one think it's either something to do with the EGR valve or VGT controlment ! Its all rumor from my prospective the boys at our other shop are fighting this one! would Be interesting to get to the bottom of it! It may end up like your situation who knows! They won't let us throw parts at it and rightfully so I suppose! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 So an update if you guys are interested a shot in the dark hit the target .after all the data capture and other bs bla bla bla the boys took a stab at thinking outside the E service shit and checked the Venturi tube found it was obstructed replaced the tube and sensor and all is good power is back and the boost no longer has fluctuations ! They thru 10000 at this with the help from e service guys hopefully they will pay us for the actual fix! We didn’t ask just did it.🙏 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackcat12 Posted March 12, 2020 Author Share Posted March 12, 2020 (edited) That’s great glad they figured it out, I would hate to know how much Mack spent on my truck and never found a solution Edited March 12, 2020 by mackcat12 Spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fjh Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 Hopefully there solution for you is working good and maybe if they lurk here they may find the solution for your old truck in this post! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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