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So no camelback  no more I take it

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On 3/30/2017 at 11:33 PM, mackey58 said:

So no camelback  no more I take it

We will miss it out here

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They don't push the camel backs but I believe you can still get them on Granites. Does Mack offer Hendrickson suspensions. They should be rugged like camel backs.

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Were still getting Camel back on MR concrete pump Spec trucks Don't know how long that will last!

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How long has the camelback been around. I know B models had it .....Late 40s? 

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I would say the late 30's/early 40's because it was used on the L models and the heavy duty F models.

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Intresting.. think about that for a moment. a Mack suspension that is still used today some 80 years later. its had many changes and upgrades but the concept unchanged.

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Carefully designed for proven performance.

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31 minutes ago, j hancock said:

Carefully designed for proven performance.

Yup and now there is  M ride 

Exclusive to Mack  ! :rolleyes:

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9 minutes ago, fjh said:

Yup and now there is  M ride 

Exclusive to Mack  ! :rolleyes:

Crappy design for marginal performance.

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1 hour ago, j hancock said:

Crappy design for marginal performance.

TELL IT LIKE IT IS   (VOLVO TRASH!)

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shop labor rates killed the camelback  its a excellent suspension until you pay $100 a hr to replace the bushings or a cracked trunion.  The T ride is alot easier to work on with just as good articulation

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Left over extra volvo parts t ride

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T rides are horrible. Volvo tried making Mack push them here over Camelback. Very, very bad luck in heavy use. They're all going back to Camelback. The t ride was a Hendrickson suspension. I remember Sterling trucks with it. 

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I'm seeing more and more issues with that M ride spring suspension. Lots of bushing issues.  Mack carriers exploding everywhere as well. I'm shocked. These Mack carriers are dropping like flies.

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I've seen Mack chunks fail in on road applications never overloaded either.  Unheard of back in the day  I don't know whose building the rears for Mack now but they need to go back to the drawing board.

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I thought they were being built in house (Hagerstown) (Volvo?)

Go back to Eaton

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On 1/19/2018 at 1:58 PM, bbigrig said:

I'm seeing more and more issues with that M ride spring suspension. Lots of bushing issues.  Mack carriers exploding everywhere as well. I'm shocked. These Mack carriers are dropping like flies.

There will be a redesigned Mack Carrier launched end of 2018-early 2019. The new carrier will go away from single bolt threaded into the carrier housing concept to providing a flat surface on top able to mount the V-Stay with 4-studs.

On 1/23/2018 at 12:15 AM, bts-4120 said:

I've seen Mack chunks fail in on road applications never overloaded either.  Unheard of back in the day  I don't know whose building the rears for Mack now but they need to go back to the drawing board.

Is this other than M-Ride suspension (with V-Stay bolt stripping the carrier threads) you are talking about? What part of Mack carrier chunks are falling off?

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I'm seeing more and more issues with that M ride spring suspension. Lots of bushing issues.  Mack carriers exploding everywhere as well. I'm shocked. These Mack carriers are dropping like flies.

On 1/24/2018 at 7:23 AM, kt_Engineer said:

There will be a redesigned Mack Carrier launched end of 2018-early 2019. The new carrier will go away from single bolt threaded into the carrier housing concept to providing a flat surface on top able to mount the V-Stay with 4-studs.

Is this other than M-Ride suspension (with V-Stay bolt stripping the carrier threads) you are talking about? What part of Mack carrier chunks are falling off?

Mack carriers exploding everywhere as well. I'm shocked. These Mack carriers are dropping like flies.

So apparently this exploding issue was a Bolt manufactures fault A  Single bolt that holds the gear to the spur shaft! threads were cut wrong  or something???

AT least that was what I heard or read somewhere!

I have repaired several of these put (  lock tight on the threads  ) did that even when we used the  good  three bolt design!

Still like that Three bolts design better !   If it ain't broke don't  fix it! :D

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4 hours ago, fjh said:

So apparently this exploding issue was a Bolt manufactures fault A  Single bolt that holds the gear to the spur shaft! threads were cut wrong  or something???

AT least that was what I heard or read somewhere!

The spur shaft bolt issue was internal threads on the Spur shaft being over-size (during heat-treat process of gears) which doesn't properly allow bolt to reach clamp load. Unfortunately, it was supplier creates issue and not design related. But end of the day it didn't matter to customer who was at fault. Now a process has been put in place to not repeat the mistake.

Single bolt design is unique to CRD150/151 carrier family series.

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On 1/24/2018 at 9:23 AM, kt_Engineer said:

There will be a redesigned Mack Carrier launched end of 2018-early 2019. The new carrier will go away from single bolt threaded into the carrier housing concept to providing a flat surface on top able to mount the V-Stay with 4-studs.

Is this other than M-Ride suspension (with V-Stay bolt stripping the carrier threads) you are talking about? What part of Mack carrier chunks are falling off?

pinion shaft failure and exiting the side of the housing  no air ride  pavement princess

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My cousin and his best friend (a former master freight driver) never pulled out with less than 96000 gross (in the 73280 days! They never got caught to my knowledge but they did "pay" the Astro had 34000# rears and a lot of drive line stuff wore out plus the aluminum cab structure cracked due to flexing of the frame! My cousin did all his own work so that helped!

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