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On August 12, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Leonardo Favaro said:

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You had balls to take that photo!

 

And I think that rig is beautiful... Their V8 is a beast, the E9 equipped Mh I owned was a real joy to operate, but I hated having to lay down to put my pants on.

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I cannot respect Truck Shops opinion. You can't make a judgement and have such a negative opinion if you have never drove one or experienced it. I'm not a fan of cabovers at all but I'd love to see, ride and drive one of those Scanias. Then I could give an opinion you could respect. 

That's my point about the mack MH. I have experienced it, I have experienced other trucks for the past 25 years, and I am going back to what I like. Not telling anyone else what to do or think, each to his own... I don't see the point of a long hood and a 300" wheelbase, but each to his own.

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You had balls to take that photo!

 

And I think that rig is beautiful... Their V8 is a beast, the E9 equipped Mh I owned was a real joy to operate, but I hated having to lay down to put my pants on.

I just drive pantsless.

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On 8/12/2016 at 5:49 PM, carlotpilot said:

that thing is just plain ugly

was just thinking now that im stuck in a volvo anything looks better but not sure about that thing....i think its even uglier than the volvo.ahahahahahahahaha...bob

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There is a perception among "new breed truck drivers" "I ain't driven' no Cabover" While they are in their 2week driving course before they've driven ANYTHING.The major carriers pander to this perception which is I believe there are no class8 Cabover built in America anymore. The carriers want the least experienced drivers that their insurance carriers will permit them to hire! I've driven both including crackerbox Jimmy 7400White "Japanese Freightliners" 9670 " binders" and a few others.My favorite Cabover. Was a MH Mack single axle.It rode best,spring ride too! The flat floor Navistar, however ugly was a good long distance Cabover.I have a slight preference for conventional equipment,but driving a Cabover never killed me! The major carriers like Freightliners because they're cheap.The long hood navistars are better built,except for that fiberglass bubble in the sleeper.

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B.Y.O.

 

LOL

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2 hours ago, j hancock said:

What sort of dealership or parts availability does Scania offer in North America?

Abreu Truck Service in Newark NJ is a Scania parts supplier, themselves have an Scania R620 Topline......

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Walmart has other ideas.... Cabovers today may be part of a truck formula for max cube within max length rules, this is a warehouse to warehouse experiment in Ontario Canada

Cabovers in the US are not going to make a dramatic comeback anytime soon, it will take a supplier/industry adjustment to payload/cube that will ultimately dictate to fleet or owner operators which "prime mover" style will be needed and they will then be manufactured... and you will drive it..!!!

right now you pull a 53ft trailer with whatever limo length truck you own if it fits into overall length laws and axle weight rules of any particular state you wish to work in.

to argue where the cab should be positioned on the frame is mostly personal choice in the general mix of things in the US/Can, specialised operations can dictate a move to COE when distribution of equipment on the truck overcomes the desires of the driver.

The Scania vs Volvo vs MAN et al is a common argument on UK and EU forums... if someone chimes in with "hoods" and "conventionals" they are soon hounded off the forum...

As far as this discussion... I agree that the R440 Streamline pictured is more reasonable aesthetically to me, the top-line does look a little too "noddy".... the front skirt work well, fuel mileage is what they are designed for and the hp/torque keeps you at a constant speed so your delivery is on time for your slot at the customer's drop off, it is a different world over there, runs on a railway timetable mindset.

BC Mack..   a cabover owner..!!

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I saw a new Penner Freightliner cabover on I94 the other day in Minnesota 

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On 8/14/2016 at 10:44 AM, HeavyGunner said:

Those international standard rear fenders are NOT conducive to being able to put chains on a truck. I chain up fall thru spring and on occasion summer when it's muddy and can quite confidently tell you those fenders would be the first thing I would take off because you can't chain up with them. Never drove a scania but have drove some old coe's and hated the cramped leg room (I'm tall), and didn't care for sitting you butt right over your steer axle. Every time it went up or down so did I. Now I know I'm talking about driving dinosaurs there but I also disagree with you and teamster that all conventionals suck and coe's are the ONLY right choice. A lot of it comes down to preference and I happen to see many conventional macks and kw's from other countries posted on here often so I don't think America has any catching up to do. 

Physically fitting chains onto tires? You still do that?

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As soon as the trucking industry gives up their love affair with single 53 foot trailers and the unproductive 80,000 pound weight limit, cabovers will make a comeback in the U.S.. Even though much of the eastern portion of the U.S. is stuck with these low federal size and weight limits, many of the western states and turnpikes have more liberal limits where a cabover would have an advantage... For example South Dakota allows twin 48' trailers in a 110' overall length on the Interstates and some other roads. Twin 48s plus the usual gap of 3' between trailers leaves only 11' feet for a tractor and tractor to trailer gap- I saw one company that just barely managed that with conventionals using Navistar 8600s IIRC, but with the space taken by EPA 2010 emissions hardware I doubt they could build that short a BBC a tractor without going to a cabover design. And the only way you can fit a sleeper and twin 48s into a 110' length is with a cabover.

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8 hours ago, kscarbel2 said:

Yep, still chain up by hand. The outfit I work for thought about auto chains for our trains but questioned how good they worked in the mud. I would think on snow packed or icy roads they'd be ok, not sure on the mud though. 

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Thought all you guys were old school, for a long time all we had were cabovers and it's good to see some new ones, 

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2 hours ago, david wild said:

thought all you guys were old school, for a long time all we had were cabovers  and it's to see some new ones, 

how bout an old one

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On 8/16/2016 at 1:45 PM, carlotpilot said:
how bout an old one

One for us car haulers lol

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Here is the latest cabover car hauler option, courtesy of ALF. I told the boss I would drive it if he bought it. One more car capacity than I am able to now. I might be suspicious of steer axle weight, though. On my conventional Volvo, we are routinely at 14k on the steer with only 4 cars loaded on the tractor.

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There is a perception among "new breed truck drivers" "I ain't driven' no Cabover" While they are in their 2week driving course before they've driven ANYTHING.The major carriers pander to this perception which is I believe there are no class8 Cabover built in America anymore. The carriers want the least experienced drivers that their insurance carriers will permit them to hire! I've driven both including crackerbox Jimmy 7400White "Japanese Freightliners" 9670 " binders" and a few others.My favorite Cabover. Was a MH Mack single axle.It rode best,spring ride too! The flat floor Navistar, however ugly was a good long distance Cabover.I have a slight preference for conventional equipment,but driving a Cabover never killed me! The major carriers like Freightliners because they're cheap.The long hood navistars are better built,except for that fiberglass bubble in the sleeper.

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Florida permits 44000 on an "axle set" which I believe is to accommodate the citrus and logging industries.Both industries often load in the groves and woods with no way to "get legal" before hitting the state roads and interstate and the weigh stations. Those single axle dump buckets teamster grrrl is referring to are called "mini wheelers"down here in "gator country".

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