fxfymn Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Others on here may know better, but $7K seems a bit high. Did you check with other local fab shops? Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted September 1, 2016 Author Share Posted September 1, 2016 It is $3800 for 4 (they are double the entire length)10"x 3.5"x 27' 6" rails, made from 1/4" grade 100 steel. Another 3k for punching 200 holes in the DS rail and 150 in the PS rail. To me the price of the rails seems reasonable, the holes I expected to be cheaper honestly. It is not a deal breaker, but if the crossmembers bring the total over 10k I'm gonna have to take a second look at the project. When she was writing the initial quote she told me that they always try to quote the jobs in a "worst case" type scenario, and that typically the more detailed quote after they get a look at the parts are a bit cheaper. Let's hope that is the case here. On the other hand the twin stick driving doesn't seem as difficult as I was expecting, it is challenging for sure. The truck had no weight on, no doubt that made my life easier as well. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted September 1, 2016 Share Posted September 1, 2016 Unless you're going to work the truck hard, I'd be tempted to go with a single frame so it doesn't rust out and split between the outer and inner rails again in a couple decades. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted September 2, 2016 Author Share Posted September 2, 2016 I just got a call from PG Adams, they said producing the front "belly drop" in my frame would be very pricey, and they might not even be able to do it. Fortunately that section of frame is in fine shape, and they can possibly set me up with pre drilled repair sections. They are gone take a closer look at it Tuesday and let me know. I guess I'm in limbo for the weekend. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Gearheads,If you're referring to Hurstscrambler' crash course in two stick 101, looks like he made it home! By the way I taught myself how to split a triplex,before any one taught me that little nugget of info,always split two handed held the wheel with my knee,couldn't figure out why I always got that little grind! Duh!Well I got my buddy a " master of the compound" a job with my employer and I was riding him to the office in the B model.After a few shifts he said pull over a..hole,and proceeded to illustrate how to split correctly!lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyT Posted September 3, 2016 Share Posted September 3, 2016 Hurst scrambler,unless I am missing something ,Would seem more practical to buy the beautiful red "binder" With the good frame and ""pirate" any parts you could use off the grey one and sell the rest to recoup what you've got in the red one,or do you feel you are too far along on the grey one and have spent too much(frame sections etc) to not continue on the grey one? Also the body may have some value.I have little knowledge of agricultural equipment ,was just wondering!Plus it has power steering ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted September 5, 2016 Share Posted September 5, 2016 sorry don't know what I did the other night read page one and didn't realize it posted on page 5....guess I should use my "readers" when doing this looks like a whale of a project, should make a nice finished project! love seeing a o'le binder get a new lease on life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hurstscrambler Posted September 16, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted September 16, 2016 Well, bad news form the frame shop, $10,600 for the frame and crossmembers. That is too rich for my blood, I just can't justify it. Add to that $1200 for new fenders and $700 for new frame hardware from McMaster Carr. 12,500 and I wouldn't really be out of the woods. So, for 2/3s of the cost I bit the bullet and bought the red truck. The seller delivered it to my buddies today, what do you guys think? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeavyGunner Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Looks like it's pretty straight and has new rubber to boot. Quote The problems we face today exist because the people who work for a living are outnumbered by the people who vote for a living.The government can only "give" someone what they first take from another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 The frame has a very small amount of spreading but I can handle that. It has 8 brand new caps on the rear and 2 new steer tires, the steers aren't mounted yet. There are alot of brake issues that need to be dealt with. I'm a little bummed because it looks like my winch won't fit, but I will get over it. The red truck has a NH-250 and the grey truck has the PT-270, any advantage to swaping in the 270? The 270 has Jakes and the 250 does not. I have a mobile media blasting guy potentially coming out next Friday to do the frame, rears, bumpers and whatnot. I should find out tomorrow weather or not that is really gonna happen. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 Was the $10,600 for all new or supplying repair sections as mentioned above? Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 Crosstown Delivery Service Full Quote 090816.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted September 16, 2016 Author Share Posted September 16, 2016 I attached the quote, I'm not sure if you will be able to see it. The $10,600 was with re-using the front 8 feet of the outer rail only. It also included duplicating the crossmembers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted September 16, 2016 Share Posted September 16, 2016 OK. Last time I needed rails it was really just bent stock and cut to length. I was able to drill all the holes and didn't need cross members. I realize you have the red truck now but maybe scout around for different cross members and check out renting a magnetic drill. It would be cool to have the Grey Ghost live on. 2 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 I got a blasting guy lined up for this week, my hope is to get frame, cab, wheels done in one day. All the bolt on stuff can be done after. I ground out all the bondo I could find, there was alot! There is some metal work that needs to be done but that is no problem. The door pins on big red are like a hot dog in a hallway, but the hinges on the fire truck doors are perfect so I will be using those. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted September 25, 2016 Author Share Posted September 25, 2016 I took the truck down the street as well in hopes that a little ride would clear up the skip the old 250 has. It didn't help unfortunately, I changed the fuel filter and added some Lucas injector cleaner. I also pulled the passenger side fuel tank, doors, air filter, and luberfiner. At this point I figure the 270 is probably going to be put into the red truck. I should probably stop being lazy and pull the cab off the frame, but as I've said before I'm not trying to build a show truck. Thanks, Andy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted September 26, 2016 Share Posted September 26, 2016 IMO, the 270 is a better choice. Something about an International with a Cummins is like a hotdog with mayo. Both good but not together. Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post yarnall Posted September 26, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted September 26, 2016 I think you are going to end up with a show truck with all the work you are putting into it. It is a shame for the grey truck though. 41chevy: I love mayo on my hotdogs and I love my 4070A with a 400 big cam. Mike 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurstscrambler Posted September 26, 2016 Author Share Posted September 26, 2016 That is a funny analogy, and you gotta love 4070s (especially ones that get followed around by F-models). I m bummed out about the grey truck. At the end of the day it will give it's life to save another, better than being cut up for scrap I suppose. If anyone wants the 250 I will make a BMTer a good deal on it. It has really good oil pressure and I think the skip is probably not terminal. Someone who knows these old cummins motors could probably get it running well. I'd guess it is a something sticking in the pump, the skip comes and goes. I would rather someone hear it run before pulling it out. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hurstscrambler Posted October 11, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2016 Big day today, gonna start mixing some primer..... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hurstscrambler Posted October 12, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 12, 2016 Got 2 coats of SPI epoxy primer on, it went on really nice. I had the wheels blasted as well, I'm hoping to paint the rims tomorrow. Also I will get the frame in the shop, do one more coat of primer and some top coat. I'm pretty happy with how it is going. Sorry for the dark picture, it was late by the time the primer was on and the gun was clean. Thanks, Andy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hurstscrambler Posted October 13, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2016 Late night, got the second and third coat on the frame after moving it into the shop this afternoon. Also got a good base coat on the rims (one is rotted, so I only have the 9) as well as the spacers. Andy 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post hurstscrambler Posted October 14, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 14, 2016 Im waiting on a few new studs and dogs but should have it rolling pretty quickly after they show up. I'm pretty happy, the frame has only been in my buddies shop for 2 days. He is a busy guy, so I was worried I would be in his way. Fortunately everything went really well, and he didn't need the shop. I'm hoping to bring all the bolt on parts to the non-mobile media blaster Saturday. Next step is to get the 270 out of the grey truck. Andy 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eddeere Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Looks great. Good choice on the epoxy primer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted October 14, 2016 Share Posted October 14, 2016 Great progress and good way to get the truck you wanted. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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