Popular Post JumperAndSon 313 Posted February 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2016 Hey y'all!!!Ben Jumper here, it feels like forevvvvvvvvvverr since I have been here! We have been very busy but not with anything particularly cool so I haven't bothered to share. Facebook is such an amazing website and I often find myself satisfied with it's contents alone. But we recently added another large two stroke powered vehicle to the collection, we are beginning a major transformation on it and I was told the I had to let you guys know what's up!So here it is. A 1989 Simon-Duplex. 10 person crew cab, 40,000 GVW, 350 HP 6V92TA, Allison Automatic. Came from the Bryn Athyn VFD, thanks to our hero Randy (1958 FWD) hooking us up! We are taking the fire pumper setup off of it and putting a western hauler bed on it to pull our camping trailer. This will be our new family vacation vehicle to replace the last hauler we had that unfortunately was destroyed in a tragic pile-up on the Pennsylvania Turnpike. More details and pictures to come!!BenP.S. I really hope you can see the pictures because I am not positive that they will actually upload correctly. 11 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Popular Post j hancock 13,662 Posted February 2, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted February 2, 2016 The "Vacation" Family Truckster lives! Nice that you got the model with the Vista Cruiser station wagon windows in the roof. 4 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to post Share on other sites
1958 F.W.D. 3,711 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 1989 Duplex Vanguard 10-man split-tilt style cab6V92TA Silver Series DD/Jake BrakeAllison HT740D 5-speed18,000 Rockwell steer 27,000 Rockwell driveMeritor disc brakes all the way aroundInsta-ChainsBody by Quality Mfg, Talladega Al. (dissolved when purchased by the Spartan family of Fire Body Manufacturers) Waterous 1500 2-stage pump, with the Waterous two-valve "Pant-Leg" LDH discharge500 Gallon fiberglass water tank 2 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to post Share on other sites
1958 F.W.D. 3,711 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 The "Vacation" Family Truckster lives! Nice that you got the model with the Vista Cruiser station wagon windows in the roof.No joke- This truck was always locally referred to as "The Yardumian Family Station Wagon" due to the number of parades me and my old man would take it to. 2 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to post Share on other sites
JumperAndSon 313 Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Btw, here are a few pictures of the vehicle it is replacing. 2001 GMC/Bluebird 66 passenger, shortened 17 feet and made into a western hauler. 8.1L Chevy gas engine, Allison auto. It was absolutely perfect for the past two years, we took it on a lot of vacations and it was awesome. Just kinda lacking power. But the nicest, most comfortable, coolest ride ever.But unfortunately, we were bobtailing on the way back from the PA State Farm Show three weeks ago on the PA Turnpike when we came into a complete whiteout around Mile 110. We slowed down to about 35MPH and followed at a safe distance behind a semi truck. Well at 106.7 The truck in front of us stopped because of an accident blocking the road. We also stopped safely behind it. But there was nobody within eyesight behind us. Visibility was about 75 feet. So we just sat there and waited. About a minute later, another semi truck came along, and of course could not stop in time, and slammed right into the back of us, crushing us intothe semi trailer in front of us. Luckily nobody was severely injured and we are all fine now. But quite unfortunately the beautiful bus is ruined forever. But we are making progress on converting the fire truck and it will be just as awesome as the bus was Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1958 F.W.D. 3,711 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 8.1L Chevy gas engine, Allison auto. It was absolutely perfect for the past two years, we took it on a lot of vacations and it was awesome. Just kinda lacking power. But the nicest, most comfortable, coolest ride ever.The new puller will probably not even notice that trailer behind it. And as I mentioned to your pop- we HAVE to park the FWD, the Hahn and that all next to each other at Macungie!!! 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to post Share on other sites
fxfymn 1,238 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Congrats. What a great way to use something that probably would have ended up at the crusher. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to post Share on other sites
Reuhlz 133 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 That conversion will be beyond cool (same with your previous bus). Can't wait for the updated progress pictures. How does the 10 person cab seating arrangement look on the inside? Do you have any pics of that?Drew Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1958 F.W.D. 3,711 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Drew:Driver ONE (ENGINE DOGHOUSE) Officer TWOTHREE FOUR FIVE SIX (facing towards the rear)(flip seat SEVEN) EIGHT NINE (flip seat TEN) (facing forward) 2 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to post Share on other sites
JumperAndSon 313 Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 In case Randy's explanation wasn't in plain enough English for us non-firemen. The cab is split into two parts. The front part is like a normal daycab cabover. Driver on the left, engine in the middle, passenger on the right. Has a hydraulic tilt setup for the front part to access the engine. Then in the back, it has four seats facing backward and four seats facing forward. Because of the raised roof, any normal sized man can easily stand up in the rear passenger compartment. It is a reeeeeeally nice layout and will work great for us.Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reuhlz 133 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Both explanations make sense. I have been researching toter vehicles for quite a while and this will be a cool conversation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vladislav 2,980 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 Good luck on the project, would be nice to see progress. Quote Никогда не бывает слишком много грузовиков! leversole 11.2012 Link to post Share on other sites
hatcity 2,380 Posted February 2, 2016 Share Posted February 2, 2016 will you keep the pump set up so you don't have to deal with the transmission/driveshaft? Quote Success is only a stones throw away.................................................................for a Palestinian Link to post Share on other sites
JumperAndSon 313 Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 Oh heck no. That would be a huuuuuge waste of space, weight and fuel economy. We just have to get a new driveshaft made and Point Spring and Driveshaft Company is literally 4 minutes from our shop and they are really great with stuff like that. Plus, we should be able to sell the pump setup for enough $$$ to cover the cost of the driveshaft. I will be posting more pictures later this evening!Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JumperAndSon 313 Posted February 2, 2016 Author Share Posted February 2, 2016 And Reuhlz, just make a western hauler out of that B model you have! Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reuhlz 133 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 And Reuhlz, just make a western hauler out of that B model you have! BenThat was always the plan! The only bad part is: time, money, space and skills - there is always something lacking!! 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
41chevy 10,259 Posted February 3, 2016 Share Posted February 3, 2016 And Reuhlz, just make a western hauler out of that B model you have! BenThat your 1st design 1955 Chevy Pick up in your photo..? Still interested. Paul Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to post Share on other sites
JumperAndSon 313 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 Progress is kinda slow but quite steady. Everything around the tank has been removed and is ready to come out. We are working on getting the pump exposed and ready to come out. If we are lucky, the pump, tank and body will be ready for removal tomorrow!Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MADDOG93 155 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 cut the body in half and leave the lower half for storage and some tail weight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JumperAndSon 313 Posted February 4, 2016 Author Share Posted February 4, 2016 We considered that but there are several problems. We could take the sides off because they are bolted to the top of the boxes but if we did that, it would be too high to tow our camping trailer. Plus it would be too long in the back so it would tear up the front of the trailer. Plus, regardless of that, we are trying to make the truck as small and light as possible so it is as maneuverable and efficient as possible. We will be using some of the boxes in our new truck bed for it though. We want as much storage as possible.Ben Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1958 F.W.D. 3,711 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 There's that Waterous dual 3.5" to 5" pantleg discharge......I have had a SHITLOAD of water moving through that discharge before. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to post Share on other sites
1958 F.W.D. 3,711 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 Ben.....I forgot to tell Dad......The electronic high-idle switch works off that Barber-Coleman Electronic Pressure Governor. If you guys remove that or disconnect it, you will lose the electronic high idle. You could probably still rig up a manual one using an old-school vernier throttle. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to post Share on other sites
General Ike 299 Posted February 4, 2016 Share Posted February 4, 2016 What will you guys do about the top speed of that rig. Typically they're governed for 60-65. Most highway traffic cruises at 70-75 these days. Are you considering a modification to allow it to stay with traffic or will you just relax at 60-65. Quote Ed Smith1957 B85F 1242 "The General Ike" Link to post Share on other sites
gearhead204 1,825 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Ben, what are you doing with the pump? I need a few waterious pump parts like the strainers in the suction ports and the wheel operated butterfly valve for the front suction. I'm repairing a cf600 for our VFD please pm me and let me know if these items are available. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
1958 F.W.D. 3,711 Posted February 5, 2016 Share Posted February 5, 2016 Ben, what are you doing with the pump? I need a few waterious pump parts like the strainers in the suction ports and the wheel operated butterfly valve for the front suction. I'm repairing a cf600 for our VFD please pm me and let me know if these items are available. Rob, there's no front suction. Give me a list of what you need. Whats the deal with your front suction butterfly? I ask because Waterous sells rebuild kits....Did you get the waterous manuals with the Mack? If not, call Waterous with the serial number- their archives are as good as the Mack Museum's archives. Call and have your serial number, and they'll send you a complete manual, parts break down, etc etc. 1 Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to post Share on other sites
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