RowdyRebel Posted November 14, 2015 Author Share Posted November 14, 2015 I MISS MY TRUCK!!!!!!So this rental truck is basically a standard "fleet spec" glider kit freightshaker. 435 HP/1450 ft lbs 60 series Detroit, 10 speed Eaton Fuller transmission, and who knows what gearing in the rears. The thing is as gutless as a truck can get...but it still had me feeling like a damn rookie trying to leave the yard with it. The shifter is located damn near behind me...even with my hip would be a generous way to describe it's location. The "towards the dash" gears (R, 2, 4, 7, 9) are farther from the dash than my "away from the dash" (LL/L, 2L/2H, 4L/4H, 6L/6H, 8L/8H) gears would be found. I've driven SPORTS CARS with a shorter throw between the gears. I'm trying to bobtail out of the yard and I slip it from 1st to 2nd, 2nd to 3rd, and when I tried going from 3rd to 4th I ended up back in 2nd THREE TIMES before I finally got it to slide over to 4th. This thing changes entire gears with less movement than my truck takes just to find neutral! The fact that my arm is uncomfortably stretched BEHIND me to find the shifter doesn't help. Then, with 50+ fewer ponies under the hood and lacking 200+ ft. lbs of torque than I'm used to, this thing jus has no "go" to it. The low range is fine...slips easily from one gear to the next....but then you've really got to wind it out in each gear or else you're lugging in the next. A 13 speed would make this thing SO much more driveable. Then, it's governed to 64.3 mph.The 1st day I had it (Thursday), I went to the Mack dealer to retrieve my loaded trailer and then went what SHOULD have been 45 minutes up the road to deliver. Took me an hour to get there. Another hour to make it back (which again, should have been a 45 minute trip) to drop & hook for my load delivering Friday. Already not looking forward to driving this POS.So Friday rolls around and I decided to just run the big road. This gutless wonder doesn't get up to speed very well, so no telling HOW much time it'll add to the trip taking the 2-lanes the whole way. I was just making it to Effingham (usually anoug 2.25 to 2.5 hours) 3 hours into my day. Going that route, I can usually be at the receiver in 3.5 hours. Taking the 2 lanes, usually in 4.5 (no scales that way...and I HATE interstates). It took me 4.5 hours to get there ON THE INTERSTATE!!! Coming back, my backhaul loaded right there along the 2-lane route, and since I'm paying by the mile for rental, I decided to take the 2 lanes back home. Loaded 30 minutes from where I had delivered....and it was another 5 hours to make it home. I can usually run the 2-lanes BOTH WAYS and keep my drive time between 9 and 9.5 hours. I was right at the 11 hour limit running the big road up and the 2-lanes back. PATHETIC!!!Then, the thing just felt mushy. No feel for the road at all. Soft, cushy springs and A LOT of body roll/sway. Sure, you don't feel every bump...but if you can't feel what the truck is doing on the road, it's impossible to react to what needs reacting to and correct what needs being corrected. It is SUPPOSED to be a truck...so it SHOULD ride like a truck. If I wanted to "float", I'd get a boat. When I'm in a truck, I want it to ride like a truck.I don't see how guys can do that...run an under-powered truck that is cut back that far down the interstate every single day. Can't (or at least SHOULDN'T) pass because you don't have the pedal to get it done quickly without blocking things up for everybody else. I told the wife if I EVER start considering selling my truck and being a company driver in a fleet-spec truck to smack me upside the head with a large, heavy object to knock some sense into me. In all honesty, I'd rather change oil & tires at Walmart than be stuck in that miserable existance. At least I have getting my own truck back to look forward to. With 485 HP/1660 ft lbs combined with the 18 speed and 4.17 rears, there isn't much that truck of mine CAN'T handle. If they can get their hands on the XT data file for me, it'll be that much better.Anyway, if Hell is anything like this, I don't wanna go there...so if you're wanting to find me tomorrow morning, I'll be at church making sure my eternity doesn't involve a fleet-spec'd freightliner. 2 Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
masterwelder Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 So.... Just wondering.... How do you like the rental truck?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted November 15, 2015 Share Posted November 15, 2015 I say he buys it before he gets his mack back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted November 15, 2015 Author Share Posted November 15, 2015 I may give this damn thing back to them after the 1 week the insurance is paying for just to preserve my sanity...depends upon if my truck is in the shop yet and wha tthe progniosis is. If I can give them their truck back next Friday and only miss 2-3 days of work, so be it. If it'll be another 2 weeks, I'm not sure what I'll do..but if I keep driving this thing for too long, I'll end up in the loony bin. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 Stopped by the truck to pick up a few odds & ends and have another look-see. Found where all the oil came from...Ouch. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 HOPEFULLY this is the only hole punched. I ought to be able to weld a patch onto that while they are working on the internals...IF they ever get it into their shop. Deer season. Mechanics on vacation. Wonderful timing on my truck's part. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Rowdy your truck looks like it should be parked next Yardos Haun, then you could compare oil loss! At least it poked a hole in the pan and not in the block! as for the freight shaker, well we have all drove them and that's what makes us grateful for what we own! hang in there, you will be staring at a dogs ass in a little while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted November 18, 2015 Author Share Posted November 18, 2015 It hasn't made its way into the shop yet for a tear-down...and until it does, I'm still only HOPING there isn't anything else tore up. I'm going to be extremely lucky if patching the oil pan is the only thing needed beyond what would have otherwise been replaced during the overhaul.As for the rental truck, I may give it back at the end of the week. It's kinda slow right now, and paying the daily rental just doesn't make sense. I can afford it for a week, because the insurance reimburses it. Beyond that, though, it's got to earn its keep...and if things don't pick up, it's looking like I'd just be breaking even with it if not for breakdown insurance covering the rental expense for the first week. If I'm only going to break even, I may as well not be wasting my time....got that Suburban to finish up along with plenty of other projects that I have all of the necessary parts & pieces just haven't had the time to work on...and my time would be better spent getting some of that stuff done as opposed to riding around in an underpowered, slow truck breaking even. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
farmer52 Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 But the $$$$ question is....what punched the hole in the oil pan?. Was it punched from the inside out (by internal part) or did you hit something on the road? Keep us posted. Quote Ken PRR Country and Charter member of the "Mack Pack" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j hancock Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 That sucks Rowdy! Never want to see a convertible oil pan. Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 So that new Freightshaker is like driving a B model? LOL!!! Ya get there....but just not in a real big hurry.Though my buddy was busting my chops the other week. Coming home from the last race I had a car giving me fits(was not going to let me finish passing) and I had to "wind'r out" a bit. I reached over and put the third stick in double boogie OD, gave her a Hail Mary and held on. Apparently I was doing north of 80 mph before I lifted and moved over in front of the car(per my buddy who was following me). Helps when it is level ground. Even a .00001% grade knocks the wind out of it.Breaking even? Sounds like a better deal then most truck drivers I hear talk............. 2 Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terry Posted November 18, 2015 Share Posted November 18, 2015 Got to be a piece of something ! What ever it is, don't look good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted November 24, 2015 Author Share Posted November 24, 2015 Well, just got word that #4 cylinder came apart in spectacular fashion...piston sitting sideways in the cylinder, sleeve shattered, and the hole in the pan was likely shrapnel from the sleeve exploding. Block is junk, so I'm getting a ReMack engine...but without a core it adds around $4K to the cost. Anybody happen to have an E7 block laying around in the way that would work for a core for an '01? Came off the line June of 2000 if that matters... I'll get pics tomorrow. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenGiant2 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 That sucks. Quote We the unwilling, Lead by the unqualified, are doing the impossible, for the ungrateful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dds92780 Posted November 24, 2015 Share Posted November 24, 2015 I feel for ya Rowdy. The real question is how does that just happen? I don't think e7 pistons just break like that. Most people get an overhaul done because rings are shot and whatnot and losing oil. Sounds like something happened and caused a huge surge of oil pressure or something. I would be curious to know what can even cuase this. Hmmmmmmmmmm Keep us posted. Quote Slow and Steady Wins the Race! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
880joe Posted November 25, 2015 Share Posted November 25, 2015 Are you wanting just the block or complete core Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted November 25, 2015 Author Share Posted November 25, 2015 I'll ask today how much they'd need. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted November 26, 2015 Author Share Posted November 26, 2015 Apparently it needs to be a complete motor that can be turned. If all I can wrangle up is a block, they can use my heads and loosely throw together the internals to make it pass. I'll have 30 days from when the new motor arrives (or perhaps is ordered...not sure) to have the core returned, so I've got a LITTLE time to try to come up with something. E7-460 is what was in there...so it would have to be a similar block. Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RowdyRebel Posted December 23, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2015 JUST got the call...truck is ready to be picked up. Unfortunately, due to the fact that tomorrow is Christmas Eve and then Friday is Christmas, STILL going to be sitting until Monday. At least I'll have 'er back, though. 4 Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack mhe9 Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 Holy crap mine 01 460 eteck has 1072851 mile and 33804 hrs. Time to sell.Just kidding glad it's back together. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post RowdyRebel Posted December 23, 2015 Author Popular Post Share Posted December 23, 2015 Wonder how it'll sound...always been a rather LOUD idler. Went with a heavier duty clutch, since the one they've been trying to put in there the last few times (and didn't work too well) was only rated to 1650 ft lbs, which is rather odd considering the 460P file my truck has is allegedly good to 485/1660. This new clutch is listed for an E-9 is good to 1850 or so, so hopefully I'll have better luck with it even if it is still an Eaton easy pedal. They opted not to put the Rochester Stage 2 injectors or the Rochester turbo on there like I wanted due to warranty concerns...so it'll have the biggest OEM injectors and turbo to keep that warranty intact. New air compressor, too, since the old one had been on there a while and they are MUCH easier to change when you aren't wrestling them in and out of the frame rail. I think they said they were putting a new starter on as well. In other words, it SHOULD be good to go for another million and whatever miles. Looking forward to picking it up either later today or tomorrow morning. No work for it until next week...but at least it'll be back here where I can re-stock my tool box with my straps, chains, and other equipment....be ready to roll and start making money again. Got a big hole to dig out of, but hopefully I'll have that all paid off again in about 6 months. That's the one thing I can say about this new gig I've got...I actually make decent money when I work. Had this happened a year ago, I would've been done, because I was working twice as many hours and LUCKY if I brought home what I do now...and along with those longer hours were extra maintenance expenses due to the nature of the work.These last couple years have been pretty darned good to me....couldn't be happier going into next year. 5 Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts-4120 Posted December 24, 2015 Share Posted December 24, 2015 did you get the 460 xt file also? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RowdyRebel Posted December 24, 2015 Author Share Posted December 24, 2015 did you get the 460 xt file also?Doubt it. Wasn't holding my breath on that one, though... Quote When approaching a 4-way stop, the vehicle with the biggest tires has the right of way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HES Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Good to here you're getting back to work. I just went through my rear diff and it cost me a pretty penny going right into Christmas. Do you have a Mack trans mated to the 460? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outbehindthebarn Posted December 27, 2015 Share Posted December 27, 2015 Doubt it. Wasn't holding my breath on that one, though...Why is the 460xt file hard to get? Quote Fun is what they fine you for!My name is Bob Buckman sir,. . . and I hate truckers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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