RoadwayR Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 If this is going to be the new Bronco................a lot of people will be disappointed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 28 minutes ago, RoadwayR said: If this is going to be the new Bronco................a lot of people will be disappointed. The Bronco is a great product, a Ford signature item they mistakenly walked away from, but the Everest is exactly what I want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TeamsterGrrrl Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 I suspect Ford is afraid to build a real "back to basics" Bronco, the profits are in $50k loaded SUVs done up like living rooms inside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RoadwayR Posted April 18, 2017 Share Posted April 18, 2017 9 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: The Bronco is a great product, a Ford signature item they mistakenly walked away from, but the Everest is exactly what I want. It is just that everyone I know is hoping for something along the lines of a Jeep Wrangler, Not saying there is anything wrong with the Everest, but it's all in the name! The Everest would make a fine Explorer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 18, 2017 Author Share Posted April 18, 2017 (edited) 6 hours ago, RoadwayR said: It is just that everyone I know is hoping for something along the lines of a Jeep Wrangler, Not saying there is anything wrong with the Everest, but it's all in the name! The Everest would make a fine Explorer. I know your not. We're cool. Ford made a mistake, in my opinion, when they put the nameplate on a much smaller Ranger-based truck, and then later on a full-size truck. The Bronco's original size was unique. It was larger than a CJ-5 or CJ-7, so four people could travel in comfort, but still lacked the full-size bulk of a Blazer/Jimmy or Ramcharger/Trail Duster. The Bronco created an all-new niche and had it all to itself. Today's Wrangler is larger and more comfortable than than a CJ-7, but it still lacks the interior space of the original Bronco form. To me, the Everest and Bronco (what we all perceive Bronco to be) are two completely different product lines. I've driven the Everest many times and really enjoy it, with either the 4-cyl 2.2L or the 5-cyl 3.2L diesels. Today's Explorer is like so many of today's alleged SUVs built on car platforms. It has many of the characteristics of a mini-van, but with the SUV face that so many Americans want. The Explorer is a car on stilts with a weak all-wheel drive system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_D3_platform#D4), whereas the Everest, riding the global Ranger platform, is a real truck with body-on-frame architecture. Edited April 18, 2017 by kscarbel2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Horse Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 2 hours ago, kscarbel2 said: I know your not. We're cool. Ford made a mistake, in my opinion, when they put the nameplate on a much smaller Ranger-based truck, and then later on a full-size truck. The Bronco's original size was unique. It was larger than a CJ-5 or CJ-7, so four people could travel in comfort, but still lacked the full-size bulk of a Blazer/Jimmy or Ramcharger/Trail Duster. The Bronco created an all-new niche and had it all to itself. Today's Wrangler is larger and more comfortable than than a CJ-7, but it still lacks the interior space of the original Bronco form. To me, the Everest and Bronco (what we all perceive Bronco to be) are two completely different product lines. I've driven the Everest many times and really enjoy it, with either the 4-cyl 2.2L or the 5-cyl 3.2L diesels. Today's Explorer is like so many of today's alleged SUVs built on car platforms. It has many of the characteristics of a mini-van, but with the SUV face that so many Americans want. The Explorer is a car on stilts with a weak all-wheel drive system (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_D3_platform#D4), whereas the Everest, riding the global Ranger platform, is a real truck with body-on-frame architecture. Kevin-let's hope we get both in the US. A real SUV again- Everest- and something close to original Bronco. Although to TeamsterGrrls's point, If they took the Focus out of MAP because they can't make money on a 25 grand vehicle, what does that say the new Bronco will be. I say kill the Flex (2000 sales a month) and bring on the Everest! And maybe by the time the Bronco is released, my 68 will be back on the road-with the shifter still on the column! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Bob, the Flex is an odd bird. It sells like hotcakes in California, but lackluster everywhere else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulldogboy Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 Don't see too many Flex's here in New England. It looks like a modern version of my family's 1959 Ford Country Sedan station wagon. Is the new vehicle coming out of Wayne going to be a Bronco? If so, what's the difference between a Bronco and an Everest? bulldogboy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 11 minutes ago, bulldogboy said: Don't see too many Flex's here in New England. It looks like a modern version of my family's 1959 Ford Country Sedan station wagon. Is the new vehicle coming out of Wayne going to be a Bronco? If so, what's the difference between a Bronco and an Everest? bulldogboy The Bronco fans dream of a modern interpretation of the original 2-door Bronco with like dimensions and design cues. I agree. Note the rendering created by a Bronco fan. But the Everest doesn't look anything like that. https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/37730-ford-introduces-all-new-mid-size-everest-suv/?hl=everest The Everest is as rugged as the original Bronco, but the design theme is totally different. . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Mack Posted April 19, 2017 Share Posted April 19, 2017 French Army choose the Everest, but with some difference. Ford built the body in his factory in South Africa, and send it in France in ACMAT who reinforced the box, take the engine, an 150hp diesel Renault 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kscarbel2 Posted April 19, 2017 Author Share Posted April 19, 2017 Thanks Frenchy. I recall that France bought 1,000 Ford Rangers. https://www.bigmacktrucks.com/topic/39932-french-army-orders-1000-ford-ranger-pickup-trucks/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frenchy Mack Posted April 20, 2017 Share Posted April 20, 2017 Yes the French army bought 1000 Ford Ranger pick up only for use in Europe. The Everest was for all the operation in the world, Mali, Irak and all the place where the French army was deployed. The engine, in the Everest accept all type of diesel fuel, bad or good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svin Posted April 21, 2017 Share Posted April 21, 2017 (edited) Sold by the Volvo group. http://chb44.com/2016/12/saint-nazaire-huge-order-3700-tanks-army/ Edited April 21, 2017 by Svin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kscarbel2 Posted August 26, 2018 Author Share Posted August 26, 2018 Bob, you know that I was planning to buy a US market Ranger and Everest, one each. But now we know Ford took the already perfect Ranger and ruined it. Only one engine and transmission.....no 2.2L and 3.2L diesel options, bland appearance, no manual transmission and I'm sure they added the essential Ford US market engine fire package as they did with the global market Kuga (known in the US as Escape). And, Ford has apparently butchered the Everest to make something with the Bronco badge. Ford lost two sales. But then, what does one expect from an automaker focused on train station renovations. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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