antiquelathe Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I am looking to buy a Model R dump truck. I want one that is all Mack. Someone told me, that an all Mack truck should have a gold Bulldog.I do not remember ever seeing a Model R with a gold Bulldog. I thought the engine,transmission rear-end and springs made it a purebread.Please correct me. Just want to be informed. Than you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 As far as I know at least in Australia the gold dog came out with Maxidyne powered trucks and was to represent the new Maxidyne motorPlenty of people say it is only a pure Mack drive line that has the gold dog but Mack Australia's official word is it was when the Maxidynes came out in the 60'sHow ever I think today any new Mack that has the all Mack drive line has a gold dog but from the late 60's till the end of the production run of the Maxidyne thats what the gold dog was for Paul 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBullDog Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 In the more modern trucks the gold dog symbolizes all mack driveline. Depending on the age of the R you are looking at, that may not be the case. My truck is "All Mack" but has the chrome pooch cause it was born with an eaton trans, but had an addadiktome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slspacek Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I too was told that on the older Macks, the gold bulldog symbolized the maxidyne engine Vs the thermodyne. Some on else maybe able to verify, the maxidyne engine was overhead cam and the thermodyne was a push rod engine? ? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1958 F.W.D. Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I asked Harvey Eckert this time-honored question. It's not a simple answer. It is, however a myth that gold dogs symbolize a 100% purebred driveline. I do remember something about Maxidyne versus Thermodyne versus another MFR's engine, as well as Maxitorque versus other transmissions. I will see if I can find the email with the answer. Quote TWO STROKES ARE FOR GARDEN TOOLS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post j hancock Posted July 9, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted July 9, 2015 Here is the previous discussion with Harvey's response.http://www.bigmacktrucks.com/index.php?/topic/38273-gold-dog/ 3 Quote JimIt doesn't cost anything to pay attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keg1 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I had 3 R models that were all Mack with chrome dogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
39 Baby Mack Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 I too was told that on the older Macks, the gold bulldog symbolized the maxidyne engine Vs the thermodyne. Some on else maybe able to verify, the maxidyne engine was overhead cam and the thermodyne was a push rod engine? ? ?Both engines are overhead valve engines (push rod), neither are overhead cam engines RonSent from my SM-G900V using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hal Yoder Posted July 10, 2015 Share Posted July 10, 2015 i drove an R795 and an F795. The model number indicates they both had ENDT865 325 V8 Maxidynes and both had gold dogs. The V8 logos on the trucks were also gold. They were pedigreed as well, with the 5 speed and Mack bogeys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
antiquelathe Posted July 11, 2015 Author Share Posted July 11, 2015 J Hancock, Thank you! To everyone else, Thank you for your time and comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
diggerpro Posted July 11, 2015 Share Posted July 11, 2015 I also have had many R, U and DM Macks that had chrome bulldogs and all Mack components all of these were Thermodines or 237 maxidines , I was told that the gold dog was used on trucks with all Mack components and the 300 or 325 engines. I have one R with a 300 and a gold dog and also have owned 4 others with 300's and all had the gold dogs- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bts-4120 Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 from what I have seen the gold dogs disapered in the late 70's and have re appeared in about 2004 with all mack drive line's there will always be cases where the owner put one on his self Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ranchhopper Posted July 13, 2015 Share Posted July 13, 2015 My RS700L has gold dogs on the hood and mirrors maybe even on the doors before they were replaced all mack drive line with the 237 and five speed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 Ok the question at the start was do pure bred Macks have gold dog's the short answer is yes but also the have silver bulldogs and I only just learnt black bulldogs question for all the Mack expertswhat Mack has a Mack Bulldog ?????Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tuffguy707 Posted July 17, 2015 Share Posted July 17, 2015 My 01 Ch613 had the gold dog and it was all Mack. My 01 Rd was not all Mack and it had the Chrome dog. My dads 02 Rd was all Mack and it had the Gold dog. Quote Tony Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Superdog Posted July 18, 2015 Popular Post Share Posted July 18, 2015 I think I've explained this 1000 times,in 1966 Mack introduced the Maxidyne engine,these engines were painted gold and all MAXIDYNE ENGINE EQUIPPED Macks had gold Bulldogs.Didn't matter what transmission,athough 95% of all Maxidynes had Mack transmissions,and it didn't matter what rear ends were. During the 1980 model year,Mack had to quit using the gold engine paint,but the gold Bulldog remained until 1981. By this time the 1st generation of Econodyne engines were being produced and the gold Bulldog went away until the early '90's they were brought back on the hood of the Elite package CH and CL trucks. Then in 95 or 96 they started putting them on the all Mack component trucks and this remains to this day. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtymilkman Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 My 1990 ch elite has gold bulldogs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 We use to order Midliners with Gold dogs for goodness sakes. Superdog has it right! Keep in mind everyone,for the last 35 years you could order a Gold dog off of the assembly line or have it installed on delivery just because you wanted a Gold dog. It's always been an option. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965 Posted July 18, 2015 Share Posted July 18, 2015 I know of a 1988 Rmodel bought new from local company & sold to a friend that I have driven; it had econodyne on the hood & gold dog on the hood & mirrors; it also an all Mack component; I can't imagine this company special ordering gold hood ornament; although it had to have been order special; it had 5 speed trans with 555 gears; reverse was way to fast hard to back up; low gear was to high too; but when you got started it would roll; it would out run & pull his 91 CH with 9 speed; both had 300 engine but R was all mechanical & CH had electronics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbigrig Posted July 19, 2015 Share Posted July 19, 2015 On the flip side, a large Ontario customer in the 80's use to pull the gold Bulldogs off on delivery because they kept getting stolen and had chrome ones installed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam0243 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 My dad had an EQ and I thought it had a brass bulldog on the hood of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swishy Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Google tells me: What does a gold Mack Bulldog mean? Trademark. The company's trademark is the bulldog, which can be found on the front of almost all Mack trucks. A gold-plated bulldog indicates the truck was made with a Mack produced drive train, engine, transmission and drive axles. A chromebulldog indicates other manufacturers' components were used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrsmackpaul Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 So Swish man, now that Macks arent making their own manual transmission anymore does that mean only Macks with M drive will hav3 a gold doggy from now on ? Paul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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