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The hook lift system is probably heavier. The interchangeable bodies have to be pretty rugged to take the forces when fully loaded.

The hook lift excels in versatility switching between bodies from flatbeds that can level load items, bins, box bodies, etc. with one chassis.

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We have an assortment of bins and a deck for machinery for the roll offs, but the tare weights are kinda ridiculous for trying to maximize loads....20yd (smallest cans) tare @ 17,100kg on my GU and around 16,000 on the RD tandem and 50yd are almost 19,000kg....but a dump of similar preportions tares @ 15,000 or less. It's the versatility we need, but trying to save weight. 16 tonne payload doesn't go too far. The Rd is even lower, MTO only allows 28,000kg gross.....

Also seems that hook loaders dont have the finese for pick ups due to the no rails thing.....never run one, but they seem to tip the can back an awful lot during p/u....

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hook lifts don't need the height clearance that a roll off does

have seen tandem hook lifts but most are S/A units 10 yd cans

good for smaller projects or space limitations

Had thought about getting a truck and some cans at one time. could just go around a jobsite and load onto my grapple-make one trip instead of 5

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Also seems that hook loaders dont have the finese for pick ups due to the no rails thing...

I'am not sure what you mean by finese. but having run both I much prefer the hooklift to the cable type. a couple of reasons are

1 you can pick cans at an angle with a hook.

2 you don't have to get out of the cab to load.

3 you can use the hook like a crane

I totally agree on the light weight thing... you can use it like a dump truck but you can't get the tonnage like one

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I'am not sure what you mean by finese. but having run both I much prefer the hooklift to the cable type. a couple of reasons are

1 you can pick cans at an angle with a hook.

2 you don't have to get out of the cab to load.

3 you can use the hook like a crane

I totally agree on the light weight thing... you can use it like a dump truck but you can't get the tonnage like one

1. Sure you can, I do it daily...trick to minimizing the roofers missing the can is dropping it super close along the wall, get most of the can hagnkng off the tails, position the back close and set it down, then let the cable out and for the last few feet, crank the wheel away from the building, swinging the back of the truck and the front of the bin into the wall...to pu set up at an angle (I've done about 30* from center without scratching/gouging the tails), pick up the bin and turn in to pull it off the wall at the same shallow angle I put it down. easier when the bin is loaded right, heavy shit at the front.....with gravel you only need 1/4 of the bin on the truck to lift the feet off the ground....it gets interesting picking up a super tail heavy bin, one last week all the gravel/roof mat was at the doors and the insulation was in the front.....Had 90% of the bin on the truck before it would lift the feet.....and the front end lol

Re-read the finese thing, and it wasn't what iwas talking about, and I'm not sure how to explain it.....

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The MHD hasn't been doing too bad up here. I'm only starting to see them catch on. A few Ontario fleets have bought some for plowing season coming up (Gazzola Paving etc.) and heavy straight trucks. They are priced right up here but with the Cummins power cross over I have seen Mack dealer shops have issues getting parts and diagnosing the power plant in a timely manner for the customers sake. I have contemplated ordering and MHD tractor for some of our light city loads. Funny thing is that Mack doesn't allow you to order an MHD as a tractor so the order would come in as a straight truck with full trailer connections on the frame. A Mack engineer in Macungie told me Bulkmatic was looking to try the same spec for certain work.

The ISL is a neat motor but not as robust as many think. I've seen many in municipal use with block issues and bent rods.(especially from sudden EGR cooler failure) The City of Toronto is starting to order more Mack Granites and LE's. All the Toronto orders are MP7 with Allison. They have lots of ISL's in Shakers so they may be on to something.

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I would have to see the specs side by side but I think I would stick with a granite set forward with an mp7 and Allison for light local stuff. I just haven't seen enough difference in the std and the MHD to justify it and the ISL is nearly the same size as an MP7.

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Thanks for the feedback guys. :)

For the MHD, personnaly, I haven't seen a single unit in the greater Montreal area :( However, we definitively see a lot of GUs around, 8x4 dump and mixer trucks (Demix/Holcim, Unibeton, for the larger companies but the small and medium size companies have bought significant numbers of GUs too).

Last week, I even saw a brand new GU for Lafarge! I was wondering when they were going to start the replacement of their aging Paystars and older Mack models... Looks like it's kicking in slowly...

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