Doffer Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 I wonder how this is going to affect the 10 axle truck I drive ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted April 13, 2013 Share Posted April 13, 2013 You gain a ton when you have the 425's on the front. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted April 13, 2013 Author Share Posted April 13, 2013 No it's a 10 wheeler it's just because I have 425's in the front and the big cast spoke 12:00 24's on the rear I work mostly on the north shoreOk gotch ya,thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted April 15, 2013 Author Share Posted April 15, 2013 Bad news from the dot,I sent them an e-mail asking if this new law would effect my 1996 three axle dump with a grandfathered type two permit,They wrote back YES starting January 1st 2015 every truck regardless of year MUST have four axles and if you add an axle it must be steerable..Now I'm really confused,sent them another e-mail to make sure!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted April 15, 2013 Share Posted April 15, 2013 It has to be steerable. They don't want you to lift it. I guess the rule has changed. It used to be anything 06 and up had to be a steerable axle on the lift. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack1928 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 They don't even know there own laws I'm going by what is written in paper not by what they say on the phone I tried that to they lady said she didn't know and to look it up on line that's when I found exactly what chevy posted that is the written bi laws I'm going by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 They don't even know there own laws I'm going by what is written in paper not by what they say on the phone I tried that to they lady said she didn't know and to look it up on line that's when I found exactly what chevy posted that is the written bi laws I'm going byI sent the e-mail before chevy posted that,think you guys are right,just want to hear it from them.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack1928 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 You know how the state is they just plain and simply SUCK!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted April 16, 2013 Author Share Posted April 16, 2013 I received another e-mail today from William J Morris,NYSDOT os/ow permit office,DL unit supervisor,he repeated what the other e-mail said,that is it makes no difference what year your truck is there will be no type two permits for three axle trucks period.He also said he would like to talk to anyone I know that thinks otherwise,here is his number 518 457 0350,I'm not liking this at all... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DM897SX Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Gonna be a ten wheeler fire sale. Exporters are probably licking their lips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack1928 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 Guess ill be carrying 5 ton illegally in 2015 I'm not gonna change my ways for some pencil pushing moron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack1928 Posted April 16, 2013 Share Posted April 16, 2013 I guess it's a good thing that my trucks only weigh 23,000 that means they are gonna drop them probably down to what my last truck is 66,000 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 I went back at him with one more question to see if there will be a different type permit offered to us or are we going down to un permitted weight witch would be useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack1928 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 It's great how they write one thing and mean another thing if you talk to someone. Everyone over there has a different story and different laws they make up as they go its crazy I don't believe that they could cut us down to less then the 66,000 that permit is a regular type 1 and I got it back in 04 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack1928 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Mack's that's what would make sense that they would give us at least that but you never know with them. that was great to ask please let me know what they say about that. They are going to have ALOT of pissed of truck owners in 2015 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slpwlker Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Be happy to get 66k. Fl on a 10 wheeler is 64K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted April 17, 2013 Author Share Posted April 17, 2013 He replied to my question and said if I decide not to add a fourth axle I could bank the type two permit weight and apply for a state wide type one permit,as an example a truck with 17 foot wheel base would have a max gross of 63750..I don't think my wheel base is much more than that so I'm screwed!!The formula for the type one permit is 1,250 x wheel base + 42,500 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack1928 Posted April 17, 2013 Share Posted April 17, 2013 Exactly what I thought my last truck I bought has that same permit type 1 it gets exactly 65,940 with that formula Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mackcl96 Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 In the mid 80's running salt,,,,you guys used allot of trailing axles (Strong arms) for R permits on the triaxles.Does NY still recognize them and could you put them on your tandem to get the length you need?? Quote Thanks for hearing me out.You can have the soap box now---------JIM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MACKS Posted April 21, 2013 Author Share Posted April 21, 2013 In the mid 80's running salt,,,,you guys used allot of trailing axles (Strong arms) for R permits on the triaxles. Does NY still recognize them and could you put them on your tandem to get the length you need??I see a few trucks with them mostly ready mix trucks,I would rather add a drop axle then have one of those hanging on the back of my truck.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
earthmover Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 (edited) Does anyone know if this is going into effect in NJ too? I'm looking to purchase a Mack RD tandem to haul 70k but I may reconsider and buy a tri axle if I won't be able to! Edited July 4, 2013 by earthmover Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsb502 Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Well you guys are just catching up to the rest of the country now, in TN a tandem is good for 66,000 on state roads and federal bridge law chart for fed. Roads (interstates) Tri axles are good to 74,000 and quads 80,000 secondary. The fed bridge on the interstate for my 04 Granite was only 56,500 ( everybody runs secondary road weights till they get caught). Quote "Any Society that would give up a little LIBERTY to gain a little SECURITY will Deserve Neither and LOSE BOTH" -Benjamin Franklin"If your gonna be STUPID, you gotta be TOUGH" "You cant always get what you want, but if you try sometimes you get what you need" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RFCDrum Posted July 4, 2013 Share Posted July 4, 2013 Does anyone know if this is going into effect in NJ too? I'm looking to purchase a Mack RD tandem to haul 70k but I may reconsider and buy a tri axle if I won't be able to!It's not in effect yet but it's coming at some point. I know it changed for the lowboys in Jersey with their permits and such. Cheers, Rob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jscoli Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 (edited) looking to purchase a grandfather over wt permit if anyone is selling??? my cell: 914-490-1694 Edited March 12, 2022 by jscoli Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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