Maxidyne

IIRC the RM hood was shorter.

Being a geek, I read the specs first... This thing is as wide as an F150! The Jeeps have gotten porky, but this is really the return of the full size big Bronco. No weight given, but this thing has to be at least as heavy as the 2 (metric) ton F150 4x4. That said, with a base price under $30k the mall parking lots will soon be full of 'em. More tempting is the Bronco Sport, as it's based on the same platform as the AWD Escape which means independent suspension at both ends and more interior space that the bulky Bronco. Only slightly heavier than the AWD Escape which with the 2 liter Ecoboost's 250 horses should give a healthy power/weight ratio. Better yet, the price is about the same as an AWD Escape!

Take care of yourself Rowdy, see the doctor(s)!

So you're all trying to tell me that medical professionals have forged hundreds of thousands of death certificates?

No, it's science, which sure as hell beats ignorance!

One of the measures of the severity of a disaster is the undercount of deaths- For example we still don't have a certain count of the fatalities in the Galveston hurricane, the great Mississippi flood of the 1920s, and the recent hurricanes that hit Puerto Rico. This undercount has occurred again in hard hit areas of the NY metro area when the hospitals and ambulance services were so overwhelmed that many COVID-19 sufferers never made it to the hospital and got tested and diagnosed with COVID-19. Fortunately the statisticians can pretty accurately give us a count by comparing the number of deaths from past years with the death count during the worst of the pandemic, and those stats show that if anything, COVID-10 deaths are being undercounted.

Navistar tried to meet EPA 2010 standards without DEF, and it was a disaster. Most of the used truck buyers don't follow the markets and still think it's International, have never heard of Navistar or NAV, and know nothing of the Traxon/VW Group acquisition.

I think the retail buyer still remembers all the problems with the Maxxforce engines, at the wholesale level they know everyone had emissions systems problems but they price it in anyways. But those trucks have clearly been tough to remarket- Why else would Navistar dump them in Vietnam?

I agree, but the market seems to still associate them with the earlier engines emission system problems.

I suspect so.

True- I haven't seen prices that low on late model class 8 Internationals, but if it has the Navistar/MAN engine it tends to have the worst resale of any truck brand.

Just checked the local paper, make that 4 dead in the second county of not even 10,000 population.

2 of the 3 counties I mentioned have 2 each dead. I think you're pretty smart, at least as regards trucks, but I'll respect you're right to call yourself "dummy".

You're not seeing many cases because you live in a remote rural area. That is exactly what the models predicted back in march- Big cities would see peak cases first, and some rural areas wouldn't see many cases until mid summer. Rural county of 25,000 that I live in saw a big increase in cases last month, just as predicted. Smaller and even more isolated rural county southwest of mine had gone from 15 cases to over 60 in less than two weeks. Even smaller and more remote county to the west has cases taking off now, one of the workers in the country club restaurant where they weren't wearing masks just tested positive and they're having to shut the town down again. Dummies think that because the virus didn't hit their town yet that it's a false alarm, so they let their guard down and when the virus comes, they get hit hard!

Yup, they make Ford look like a bargain! No doubt the VW Group/Traxon merger is priced into Navistar's market value, if that deal falls through NAV will crash.

Finance running auto and truck manufacturing seems to be the trend- the Japanese makers have long taken orders from the banks, FCA and GM owe their lives to Treasury, and Ford is now deeply indebted to the Fed for their continued existence. As for automakers making big trucks, they're too addicted to billion dollar investments in new models and vehicle a minute line rates to stomach the big truck biz. That leaves an opening for a billionaire investor, private capital, or China...

In war, the surviving wounded much more sap a nation's resources than the dead- While the dead can quickly be buried, the wounded will need to be cared for, sometimes for decades. The loss of the wounded's labors can be just as tragic as the loss of the dead's labors, and the wounded usually far outnumber the dead. We've only got six months experience with COVID-19, but from what we've seen so far the long term disability caused by the virus is a long term threat to our health care system's capacity and the health of our economy.

And respecting the mods, this will be my last post on this thread.

Sorry, never took that college course. You're getting entertaining- What other conspiracy theories ya got?

Charlottesville? Was there ever even a truck show there?

When?

Sorry, never been there. Got any better conspiracy theories?

Actually, it works the opposite- The union jobs have the best combination of pay and benefits, so they attract the best workers. Almost every time I've applied for a union or government job there's been at least 10 times as many applicants as positions, applying for nonunion jobs often anyone who met the minimum requirements was hired.

When and where was this?

So am I supposed to be intimidated or something?