mackdaddy

Now that is what you call a ..........Mack.

Keep it going as long as you can.

Thanks guys!! I should have known to post it here first. Didn't even get one atta boy on the ATHS post!!. I am restoring a 1966 R 719 that was sold new in CA and ended up in the Mary Hitchings fleet.

As it turns out Don at the museum helped me with info on the engine and only 34 of the twin turbo 864's were built. I will get a new post going with pics soon.

Try John Chalmers as i just got some gaskets from him for my 864.

Hey guys does anyone have the battery hookup diagram for a 1987 Superliner RW613?

I thought that by 87 they were all RW700 series??

CHU Rawhide

I seen a few Rawhides with the large chrome surrounding the front girll. Much like a Superliner had. Is that an option or 3rd party purchase? Sure makes them look good.

Nice spread in LargeCar Magazine this issue of the Thumper. What a lot of work he has put into that ride. Caption states over 800hp!! What all is done to make that happen with a V8?

The new ABF order started today, Also noticed another order of 100 CHU's for FracTech, and more CXU's for Chili. NYC LEU's is also running. Who ever goes to the plant tour at the antique truck show should see an interesting variety of trucks.

ABF is different then most CHU's because the CXU has a in four battery in frame box under the deck plates.

What are the times for the factory tours over the Macungie show weekend? Just show up?

When I first saw the truck it was a single axle.

John,

Is the engine original??It was always my understanding that the B-77's had the supercharged engine like Dan said,and the B-773's had the 335.

5:08 is a Mack ratio,my '58 B-73 and 'one of my '60 B-61's both have 5:08's.

Please post some pics ASAP,can't wait to see it.

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Mikr, you got me on that one........ I forgot the 3 meaning turbocharged. I had a G-77 and it had a unique frame modification at the factory so that the charger would sit down in it.

It looks like a treasure chest inside that garage? Why not fix up that LT first?

I am going to buy a Mack B-77 with a 335 Cummins mated to a quadraplex trans and it looks like a 5:08 rear end ratio but that may not be a Mack rear end? I will post pictures but I do not have much info on this very rare Mack with serial number B-77LS1004. I would appreciate any comments or info. Mack made 113 units between 1958-64 but I am not sure why they made this model. Would not a B-73 or B-75 do the job? I will call the Mack Museum on Monday AM to see what they have on the truck but I would appreciate any and all comments.

Best regards,

John

John,

The B-77 came with either a cummins supercharged or turboed like the 335. Dave Strickland of VA has the finest example of a B-77 with a charger motor. I have one with the early 335 and big 590 turbo. As for the rear ratio that would be a later 50's drop in as I believe 5.77 was the fastest in the early models. I keep thinking that it was 5.13 but maybe there was a 5.08. But if it is a drop in most definetly Mack. It is a single axle? and the serial number would have be believe it was one of the earliest of that model built.

My son is on his way home with the latest addition to our working fleet.Picked it up at Mander's in MN this afternoon.

Mike

is ol Sid Manders still around. Helluva guy!!! B-52 pilot shot down over Germany.........POW and escaped with the help of a German officer who attended the same university in the USA as Sid did. He said as they drove out of town he was laying on the floor board looking up and could see American aviators that had been captured hanging from the street lights.!!!

It is great so far. Rides like a pick-up only 5 ft higher. 605 hp. Where was that 20 years ago. Anybody that drives one will want one. If we keep it in shop for p.m. Driver takes the day off does not want to drive his old 2000 C L .

Is there any truth to the rumor on the ATHS thread that the Maine Loggers on TV are parking the new Titans for new Western Stars. Claims they have broke oil pans too many times along with other issues?

My current restoration project is a 1966 R-719LT that has a factory V-8 with the twin turbos. Note that it also came with twin pyrometers. Lucky for me the engine runs really good so I am not intending to tear it down but to just do a cosmetic resto and detail of the engine. The fuel tanks are aluminum. And you can't beat a single axle for having room to keep it.

The stats show this as a 864 with twin turboes putting out 300hp.

The B or C never had a turbo.It was a end 864 but the ENDT cme out in 67 maybe late 66. It was a twin turbo. The first twin turbo as i was told that left the factory was in a F700.I rrmember very well the first one sold here. It was a different sound but had fuel pump problems until the V serials was released.The B615 was a END 864 with a very small oil pan for axle spacing.

My current restoration project is a 1966 R-719LT that has a factory V-8 with the twin turbos. Note that it also came with twin pyrometers. Lucky for me the engine runs really good so I am not intending to tear it down but to just do a cosmetic resto and detail of the engine. The fuel tanks are aluminum. And you can't beat a single axle for having room to keep it.

I liked the show but noted no comments were made about the HQ closing down and when he mentioned that he was from NC..........and now HQ is there? I thought the display of the Mack trucks showed a really quality product and nice variety of options and models. He sure wanted to say Freightliner and KW a few times when he mentioned south of the border!!I think the show is the real deal especially when the parts guy was sitting in the CEO's office and he wasn't about to shut up.

My understanding is that the 673 was the only option you had for the H models.

I know for certain that the H-61 came with Cummins but did the H-67/69?

I assure you they are all full size.

Did your H come with a Cummins? The one I have did, it was a 200. Gene Olson has a really nice complete H-61 with a Cummins also. I never thought the H-63 on came with anything other than Mack diesels or gas jobs but back in the early 80's I spotted an H-67 pulling for Mayflower sitting at a stop so I went over and talked to the owner and he bought it new and claimed that the 220 Cummins came in the truck.

Nice truck. I bought the H613T picture below from Ralph G. Smith Horse Transportation this summer. It is serial number 1001, the first of 3 H61's built with a turbo. Unfortunately it has been replaced with a naturally aspirated 673 at some point. It does not run yet, but it turns over. All 3 H613's were bought by Ralph Smith. The other 2 were wrecked in accidents. They were made in 1956 from left over parts. Ralph Smith had 7 H61's already and wanted these to match to Mack made them for him. Mine is kind of rough, but it still exists. I'd like to know how many H61's are around. I know a guy down in the Carolina's has two or three, but don't know of any others.

Michael Yarnall

Michael,

that is a really complete looking H-61. I have one that I bought a few years ago and unfortunately just before I showed up to pick it up some vandals stole the radiator and front radiator shell. Any chance there were parts at the Smith company? That is the 80yr old owner that I got it from in the picture. This truck ran the west coast for many years.

hello........ everybody i am Jack Thomas

As in THE Jack Thomas from Louisiana?

Freight train is pointing you in the right direction with the old 2 stroke joke...............Dan R!!!

i just got back from a tour of Italy. I saw a Renault with big bold letters across the front...........French Bulldog....obviously to a truck guy it had the V8 in it. Saw another with Mack mudflaps front and back. Driver confirmed he was running the V8. All brands of trucks seem to like the V8 diesels where american makers are all in line 6

My Dad bought a 62 G model, I was only about 7yrs old then but can remember the pole in the middle of the interior roof right behind the doghouse. I dont believe the first G models had the pole. It was to keep the roof from flapping. My Dad said within a few years most of the rivets had popped out of the cab and that it was a very cold ride in the winter. I think they were an advanced looking rig for it's day. There were quite a few sold in those few years of production. I was told the issue with KW was the extruded aluminum door surrounds and that Budd sold it to Mack without KW's permission. I always thought the idea of the piece of rebar welded to the front axle cover plate for the first step was a little cheap.

Here's a couple underhood shots of my R410P, these were taken not long after it was delivered, there's been a lot of parts and pieces replaced since. All of the hoses have been replaced including rad hoses, all the oil lines, gas line, and the vacuum lines on the vacuum pump for the brakes (yup, it's got juice brakes).

Biggest thing I've done is to replace the 9:00x20's with new Goodyear tubeless 10x22.5's all the way around on new rims.

A mid 70's Bulldog magazine interviewed a retiring Mack executive and he told of the tough times Mack went through in the early 60's and they tried to put together a takeover by Chrysler. The FTC shut it down due to Chrysler monopolizing the industry. Unbelievable now considering all that has taken place in mergers, bankruptcies, and the present ownership of Mack. But Mack's fortune turned quickly with Zenon Hansen coming on board and the takeoff of the R model and Maxidyne engine. But that only lasted for so long too.

My B-73 has a Cummins.(1963)

Looking at an RL 700 with 335 Cummins. (1971)

Hauled a B-XX to B-61 Fred with a 220 Cummins (196X)

Packer

To help clarify the issue, Mack designated models that could have vendor engines. There are models such as the CH and certain R models that were designed only for a Mack engine.

I always wondered why did some company trucks bumpers were shorter or cutoff. I myself think tires were an ugly rotating mass and needed hiding. Same as high fender wells are ugly also and should be hidden Just my point of view.

mike

i was always told they got a break on the insurance in the event of a blow out the bumper did not explode with the tire. or was it in the event of an accident the bumper did not take out the front tire?