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Whiskymack

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  1. I'm trying to find images of the underside of an F model cab. I found some part book images on this site which show the construction of the cab but I was hoping that someone who has access to one would be able to tilt the cab and take a few pictures of the underside. This is for another of my model projects which I started years ago and then shelved. I made the basic cab shell but need to add the interior and underside detail. I'm intending it to be an early Western model with the old metal dash cab. Any help appreciated.
  2. Trent, I came across this site featuring your truck. https://www.duncanputman.com/truck-of-the-month/2019/april/ It mentions that you fitted a wet kit. My current model project is a DM800 with tri axle East dump trailer from the Stephen Segal Movie 'Fire Down Below'. I'd have thought it should have a wet kit but I can't see a tank on any of the images: apart from tool boxes, air and diesel tanks there doesn't seem to be any other stuff on the frame. Is it possible to have a wet kit without a tank or could the tank be mounted on the trailer rather than the Tractor? Any help appreciated, Alastair FIRE_DOWN_BELOW_D4 - 00hr 50min 31sec.bmp
  3. The truck is looking fantastic. Looks great in the snow! I still think the long hood Hayward Macks were the best looking ever! I'll bet her bark is great too! Didn't you pick up a 36inch Able Body sleeper as well a few years back?
  4. The Brockway superliner conspiracy will run and run but I don't think there's much in it. Take a close look at a Superliner 1 and it looks pure Hayward Mack, while the missing link picture looks pure Brockway to me. The only real similarity is the cab. My guess is that both Mack Western and Brockway were independently developing their own wide hood, big radiator conventional just like more or less every other truck manufacturer in the 70's. Mack killed off the Brockway design when they closed down Brockway but continued to develop their own model. I don't doubt that Mack may have got some good ideas from Brockway but I would say that the Superliner is essentially their own. I'm sure that shutting down Brockway when it was on the brink of launching a flagship new model would understandably have lead to some bad feeling and accusations of industrial espionage.
  5. I always thought that the NZ Superliner was on the standard R Frame like it's Australian cousin but I don't know for sure. What always amazes me about Mack in the 1970's and 80's is how many different models they had for trucks doing pretty much the same thing. There were the Eastern built standard R models, the Western built Hayward models which had a different frame, the Superliner not to mention the U model all offered at the same time and all intended essentially for over the road haulage. Then you had the Australian Superliners with the R model frame and I think a similar model was available in Mexico. I'm sure Kenworth and Peterbilt only had the W900 and 359 for regular haulage with various options at his time.. I'm also curious about the product identity choices made for the Western lineup in the late 1970's. The old FL and FS models were replaced with the Cruiseliner in 75 and this had an all new riveted cab. The Superliner came out using the same frame as the Cruiseliner but still with the R model cab which had more in common with the F model cabs than the Cruiseliner. Why did Mack not choose to update the cab with similar styling to the Cruiseliner, duplication of doors etc? Also why did the frontal treatment differ. I'd have thought the stylists would have wanted some tie in between the two models with maybe the same grill/headlight treatment. I'm sure this must have been considered and I'd love to see development pictures if anyone has them. When Hayward closed and manufacture of these models went East the Cruiseliner grill was finally updated to look like the Superliner grill. Why also did Mack choose to keep the old RS/RL 600 models going under the new name of Valueliner? Why did they not offer a short hood Superliner or at least replace the RS hood with a shortened Superliner hood? They could have had 3 Models with common styling rather than the 3 disparate models they offered. From a brand image point of view I would have thought this would have made more sense.
  6. It seems that now they import Australian built Macks but am I right in thinking that Mack New Zealand used to make their own trucks because it looks like they used to have products like the RB unique to the NZ market? Also, the second generation 1980's Superliner in New Zealand just looked like a mark 1 with rectangular headlights whilst the Superliner 2 in Australia was a taller truck with more space under the cab for airflow in hot conditions.
  7. The KW's and Diamond Reo's were the only ones I saw at RSTG apart from an International straight truck they used for picking up from the local farms. I don't know how many trucks they had at this time but they seemed like a relatively small family outfit. I seem to remember that Wally had at least one son involved in the business and it was he who took us to Melbourne in the T600A after we moved on from Robinvale. I don't think I ever went to Kerang or Snow Hill.
  8. Sorry, I didn't see your 'Whites' post straight away. I have heard those cabovers were nicknamed 'Japanese Freightliners'. I didn't know they had them in Australia. I didn't see any when I was there even though there were quite a few older trucks about.
  9. Thank you for the pictures. I saw very few Peterbilts when I was there and the few I saw were generally Left hand drive so weren't built for the Australian market. I do remember seeing a silver 359 running around Robinvale. I'm attaching pictures of the KW W900 and the Diamond Reo I took in 1992. I can't find any pictures of the T600. It looks like the lettering on the trucks is RSTG which I vaguely remember might have been Robinvale to Sydney Transport Group. Did they change names a few times and am I right in thinking they aren't trading now? No problem with the pictures but I think they may work better if scanned as JPEGS but I'll see what happens with my post!
  10. Sorry to hear that he is not well. I remember him as being quite a character and he was certainly very good to us. I think I have a few pictures of RTG trucks which I'll dig out and post on the other truck makes page.
  11. https://www.heavytruckparts.net/search.php?keywords=1979 MACK RS600&PartID=any&tgs=T A few parts going for this truck but I can't see a front crossmember. You could email and see if they have one.
  12. Very nice looking Super's. I remember them back in 91/92 when I was in Australia. The Mack V8's made that distinctive popping sound. Sorry to drift off topic a bit but I spent a couple of months picking grapes in Robinvale in early 92. I hitched a couple of rides with a local family trucking business run by a guy called Wally Williams. They had a couple of Kenworths, W900A and T600A and an old Diamond Reo. I can't exactly remember the trading name of the business but Robinvale Transport Group kind of rings a faint bell. I wondered if they are still going?
  13. The cab height is the same on both but the hood changed. The orange truck is the earlier model and it used the eastern style R700 hood on a Western frame. The ride height of a western frame was generally higher than the eastern model and the cab was mounted higher so you can see a big gap between tyre and fender especially if you compare with the picture which began this thread. In about 72 Mack came out with a new Western hood, dropping the fenders down several inches so creating a taller hood and closing down the gap between tyre and fender. You can see the extra inches in the flat panel below the body line along the sides. This was regardless of the engine fitted.
  14. Pretty sure that's an early Western grill minus the lower portion which I believe attached to the bumper. Replaced with newer style Western grill around 69/70.
  15. Very nice. It has an early Western grill although everything else looks like Eastern built.
  16. Vlad, your English is coming along terrifically. I can't vouch for your spoken English having never met you but I can see that your writing has improved so much over the years. You certainly put me to shame! I can't write in any other language than English.
  17. On ebay: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1968-mack-r-model-v8/113912190305?hash=item1a85b21561:g:EZgAAOSwSKJdln5H I'm guessing this would be a 615 with the 864 motor. I'm curious about the re-routing of the steering. Somewhere on the forum I saw that the BCR conversions had this too but I suppose in this case it is to get around the V8. Nice looking truck though.
  18. R612 or 712 for the 300+ but I think a lot were coupled to fuller roadrangers. https://www.truckpaper.com/listings/trucks/for-sale/list/manufacturer/mack/model/r612st
  19. Here's a bit of wishful thinking. The superdog with the round headlamps has the newer bumper from the 2nd generation. You can tell by the position of the cutouts. However, It still has the round headlamp hood from the original super liner and that looks to me like it says 'Vehicle Development Lab' on the door. Now wouldn't it be great if it turned out to be a pre-production prototype for the 2nd gen. Superliner- an MH frame with Superliner cab and hood mounted on it. I'd love it to be true. Maybe someone can get a closer look?
  20. Interesting find. I've never seen a Detroit in a 600 model before. I've seen a few RS700's with them but it looks a real tight fit in a 600. It looks like it's factory going by the data plate.
  21. Thank you. I'll see if I can get in touch with Mike Gully.
  22. I have had the Freightliner Powerliner cabover on my list of to do model projects for years but just can't find the information I need. I was wondering if anyone has one or has access to one which they could photograph for me. They seem to be something of a rare beast and I'm pretty sure I won't find one in the UK. I'm particularly interested in front end frame detail such as spring hangars, cab mounts and how the radiator is mounted. It's all a bit complicated in there and I can't figure it out so any help would be appreciated. I would really need someone to get in there with a camera and take a whole load of shots. Alastair
  23. All the early flat backed cab R's I have seen had what looks like a one piece hood without the fender seam. I think Mack may have started getting the hoods from a different supplier sometime in the 70's and their manufacture process involved bonding on the fenders so for this reason the seam became a feature. Perhaps because it was quite distinctive it was kept for a while when they switched back to single piece hoods. It would be interesting to know if Mack used more than one supplier at the same time and had both variants available. Later R model hoods didn't have the seam or that slight step in further down the fender either. I suppose Mack just decided to clean up the design a bit.
  24. This topic came up a few years back but I can't find the thread. I seem to remember someone saying that the hoods were not necessarily made by the same manufacturer so the differences were down to the particular process employed by each manufacturer.
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