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Wouldn't an 01 just be a straight CH model I thought the CHN's came out in 05

"If you can make it, somebody can break it." Thus sayeth The Weasel...

This Mp7 year was the only one that kept the spinner oil filter of old! Then 2008 they chucked that idea too made it totally pure bread Volvo trash Swedish Vallhunds instead of a bulldog on the hood! Joe I"m A 18 Sp fuller believer ! Even thou I have got a bit of work out of the Mack trans over the years durability wise fuller is as good as any Mack trans and as I have said before cheaper to repair !Mack has innovations that work nice like the multi speed reverse that is nice to the dump application thou! That Is not offered by fuller !the expense issue still remains!

Amen!!

kt_Engineer has the best Theory so far, In my Opinion.

he still gets a name drop here once in a while, but since he was proved to be a lying sack of petrified dog turds, no one pays him any attention except for the kool aid drinkers.

Ok mine is a 613 but after looking closer at your stripes I believe mine are a little different. I'll post vin in a few days when I'm home and think of it. What year model is the limited edition

For comparison purposes. Similar frame rails. Not exact. Very few bends and curves in comparison to other models Mack offered. R series style cross members used.

You are changing both rears right?

Spoke wheels were never an Option on Midliner in North America. I believe what Vlad posted is the CM baby 8 info he found on the net. Midliners use Eurpoean wheels and hubs on Renault axles.

Similar to CH, straight rails. Slightly smaller. I have a breakdown of the rails I will post up another day.

Post up the last 6 digits of the VIN. Has to be a CL613 model. I have a list and I will check.

The frame is "basically" the same as the CH. (Not Renault) the crossmembers are older single frame R model Axles were Mack front and rear and available in either spoke or stud pilot wheels (alum or steel) Engines were Renault (E5) or Cummins 8.3L Trans was Spicer or Fuller 7 and 9 speeds Besides the engine option cab shell and some interior parts, hood, everything else on the CM was Mack. For those that have seen Midliner wiring/fuse panel, they will recognize the picture I posted of the CM fuse panel. Complete air system is North American. Big difference.

I have been chasing a poor running '05 C.E.G.R ASET for week's while doing other repairs to the fleet. It acted like a bad lifter... I checked everything, there were 3 EUP codes, so the owner had me replace all EUP's, Injectors, and Fuel lines.. It ran better but was still exhausting "Eye Burning" rich exhaust... I loaded the new version of P.T.T. into a New laptop, and tested everything I could,, everything I was doing including PTT was pointing at #5... I ran the valves....twice... fuel filters etc. We sent it to Mack to have them do a compression test, because our shop doesnt have the tools. (we ordered them)... Mack says #5 has 100 PSI compression.... so today I'm pulling the heads... the last thing I removed was the intake manifold, and guess what???????????? Ive only been doing this 23 years,,, and this is first for me.... W.T.F.? I can laugh at it now, but trying to explain to the owner that I'm stumped! before I found this was a bit stressful... Of course no-one will fess-up about leaving a rag in the intake and cranking the engine... 🙃

Always wondered what the "K/G" designation meant. Nobody knew back then. Even Rome Plow Company did not know recently. But, they DID know the letters stood for the names of the inventors. That gave me somewhere to start. The "K" was for Kissner, and the "G" was for Green. K/G = Kissner/Green. Mr. Kissner's son and Mr. Green's daughter were married, if I am tracing their names correctly. Mr. Kissner (the father), Mr. Kissner (the son), and Mr. Green (the in-law) held the early patents on the shear blade. Apparently, the design was so successful that the Rome Plow Company bought the rights to it. So, now I know...