In my earliest coal mining days, (and nights), I spent a many, a many, a many, a mucho, a buncha time on ole number 2208 Euclid 120 ton belly dump coal hauler, V-12 cummins, straight stack sticking up right behind cab, long long nose hood. Top speed was bouts 45 mph, loaded or empty, power shift 6 speed trans. Used to put a big chunk of coal down stack at night, start pullling up long ramp and watch the fireworks show start over cab. I got more ass chewings over that. I always told em it musta fell out of shovel bucket and went down stack. heh heh,,,they usually didnt fall for it,,,,randyp