Popular Post dave41855 Posted October 19, 2016 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2016 Not sure if it will happen, but, there is the possibility that I just might come out of retirement. The man who now owns my old Mack wants to sell his Superliner dump. It needs work. Cab mounts are shot, cab air bags need replacing, turbo is getting tired. The cab itself is quite solid as is the hood. Basic chassis is also in good shape. Dump body is rather sad shape, but that's ok by me as if I do buy it I'll put a 5th wheel on it anyway. I figure $5000 as she sits right now ain't bad, and, I'm thinking about $5000 more and it could be all rebuilt. What do you guys think?? Dave 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bbob61 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Hell Yeah, you best do it !! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hicrop10 Posted October 19, 2016 Share Posted October 19, 2016 Why not leave it as is and make some money with it,before you spend it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted October 20, 2016 Share Posted October 20, 2016 I'd grab it in a second! 2 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Great deal go for it and best of luck...have a ball....bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Sounds about right money wise and planning if she not on the verge of puking a piston I don't think you need the full 5k in repairs if you do the labor. Cab mounts are easy and cheap same with the air bag. Get on pai and look them up they are all available. 2 Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave41855 Posted October 21, 2016 Author Share Posted October 21, 2016 7 hours ago, thomastractorsvc said: Sounds about right money wise and planning if she not on the verge of puking a piston I don't think you need the full 5k in repairs if you do the labor. Cab mounts are easy and cheap same with the air bag. Get on pai and look them up they are all available. That's the one thing that bothers me about this whole deal, she may pop a piston. Reason I say that is I drove it for a load and she makes "weird" noises when worked hard. It's got a 300+ in it and speedo says it's got 148,000 on it motor wise. I don't have a ton of money and I'm at the age now that I can't do much work on it, nor do I have the shop to work on it, so my estimate for repairs is just about right. The other factor affecting my thoughts is why has this truck sat for so long.... does he know something I don't maybe??? Not telling me everything?? I don't know.... Anyway, I'm in no real hurry yet as winter is coming on and he'll be parking both truck soon. We're not done talking yet so if there are other issues I'll find out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fullfuel01 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 remember that an old mack is cheap and easy to fix and always job ready. wouldnt be scared of that truck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freightrain Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 Ok, fill in the un-edumicated about loosing a piston. Common to these for some reason? Do I recall something about a 2 pc piston or am I off on a tangent someplace? Just curious. Quote Larry 1959 B61 Liv'n Large...................... Charter member of the "MACK PACK" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 (edited) 5 hours ago, dave41855 said: That's the one thing that bothers me about this whole deal, she may pop a piston. Reason I say that is I drove it for a load and she makes "weird" noises when worked hard. It's got a 300+ in it and speedo says it's got 148,000 on it motor wise. I don't have a ton of money and I'm at the age now that I can't do much work on it, nor do I have the shop to work on it, so my estimate for repairs is just about right. The other factor affecting my thoughts is why has this truck sat for so long.... does he know something I don't maybe??? Not telling me everything?? I don't know.... Anyway, I'm in no real hurry yet as winter is coming on and he'll be parking both truck soon. We're not done talking yet so if there are other issues I'll find out! What kind of noise? Sure it's not from the worn turbo? It is a pretty clean Superliner and I would think if worse came to worst you'll be able to get your investment back. Paul Edited October 21, 2016 by 41chevy Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackdog2 Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 If you don't buy it the guy in the next state over will buy it and sell it for 3-x- more . Quote Ed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
41chevy Posted October 21, 2016 Share Posted October 21, 2016 1 hour ago, blackdog2 said: If you don't buy it the guy in the next state over will buy it and sell it for 3-x- more . It would be a good unit for our 300 acres in Virginia for general land work. 1 Quote "OPERTUNITY IS MISSED BY MOST PEOPLE BECAUSE IT IS DRESSED IN OVERALLS AND LOOKS LIKE WORK" Thomas Edison “Life’s journey is not to arrive at the grave safely, in a well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, totally worn out, shouting ‘Holy shit, what a ride!’” P.T.CHESHIRE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomastractorsvc Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 If someone parks a working truck usally it ain't to save the miles. With that said, ask him straight up. You will be able to tell if he is being truthful. If he really don't know, pull an oil sample and send it in. Are you planning on working it or hobby trucking. A worn motor will go a long way in a hobby truck. Quote Robert"I reject your reality and substitute my own." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 looks like 5k in parts alone! is the floor of the box gone? the sides still look good! and the tractor looks as if it was cared for. and I have to think that the scrap yards are full of 6 cyl. macks on the east coast, I see running take outs advertised out here for 2500 and up out here in a mack poor area. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave41855 Posted October 22, 2016 Author Share Posted October 22, 2016 4 hours ago, gearhead204 said: looks like 5k in parts alone! is the floor of the box gone? the sides still look good! and the tractor looks as if it was cared for. and I have to think that the scrap yards are full of 6 cyl. macks on the east coast, I see running take outs advertised out here for 2500 and up out here in a mack poor area. The floor in the body is shot. He worked it under a crusher for 2 summers and the 3"- stone coming out didn't help it at all!! I think overall the truck has been cared for yes. Cab floor, doors, hinges, cab back, all of that is good and solid. Frame rails are single steel and haven't been cut or welded at all. Steering sector is tight as are ball joints and pinions. Tires are about 40-50% I'd say. The turbo has a loud howl to it when you're really pulling hard with it but it's the knocking in it that worries me. It's my intention to use it as both hobby truck and work truck. I have a drop deck lowboy for it, rated at 30 ton, that I intend to "play around" with. Another gent here in town has an old 57 B model he wants to take to parades and shows and that also is what I'd love to do with this one if I get it. Haul his on my trailer. It's time to enjoy life a little and driving an old Mack is how I'd like to do it!! I have to meet with him this coming week anyway so we'll talk turkey then in depth. When I find out more I'll post it here to let you all know what's happnin'!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fxfymn Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Old trucks are like old men; full of creaks, rattles and knocks. Does the knock vary with engine rpm's? Is everything tied down tight enough not to thump? I'd buy it at that price, or less if you can negotiate, sell the body for scrap, clean it up, and either do an in-frame or run it until it breaks. Being a fire truck guy I don't advocate cutting up fire stuff, but there are a ton of low mileage CF's out there with good engines in the $3-5K range. Quote Money, sex, and fire; everybody thinks everyone else is getting more than they are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underdog Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 I am slowly dismantling an MH parts truck with an E6 2v 350 and Mack 9-speed that will be for sale. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 Ya besides good used engines are pretty common and not all that expensive for the money you could turn it for a tidy profit. If nothing else if it's making weird noises in service it may be transmission. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tjc transport Posted October 22, 2016 Share Posted October 22, 2016 with only 148K miles on it, that engine is not even broke in yet. my bet is the knock is a sticky injector from sitting. 2 Quote when you are up to your armpits in alligators, it is hard to remember you only came in to drain the swamp.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post dave41855 Posted October 24, 2016 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 24, 2016 Well kids, after a long afternoon of "sitting around the campfire", drinking several cups of coffee and just having a splendid afternoon swapping war stories, we came to a decision. He's not going to sell and I'm not going to buy. Yet anyway!! He's not sure what positively is making the engine knock. We both think it's a piston. If you hold a 4 foot screwdriver to your ear and against the block, it sounds like the #5 piston is the bad one. And, there is now coolant in the oil. So, he wants to do in in-frame and rebuild it and I'm all for that. If I help him to work on it through the winter, THEN we can make a deal come spring. He's going to keep the body, which is ok with me, and he'll rebuild that later. If I help him as I can through the winter, come spring, it'll be "ready" for me built as I want it. I have an old 5th wheel myself that will go on it. He still has the bracket that held the trailer brake air lines and electrical cable, I have a "pogo stick" or "tree" to hold them on and various other little things to return it back to a tractor. Probably once it's all done a new coat of paint will top it off! This is a deal I'm in no hurry to rush into. I want to make sure that the rebuild is done right and it's in as good shape as can be. It'll be the last truck I'll ever own so I want it right. My old lowboy had a new wood floor done 3 years back and it's in good shape "ready to work". God willing, come next year, I'll have myself a hole new playtoy to show off!!! 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave41855 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 Well kids, we pulled the old girl into the shop and started the tear-down. Took off the hood and removed a lot of the small stuff off the motor and stopped there. Yesterday he drained the oil and dropped the pan. Inside the pan was quite a few little chunks of metal. Upon closer inspection, he found the #5 piston itself has begun to break apart and also the connecting rod bearings are toast. Haven't seen the chunks- yet but will today and get some photos. Glad I didn't just dive in whole hog. After we got the hood off and sat back enjoying a good hot cup of coffee, we both started to chuckle. He says "I know where there is a good ENDT866 that would fit in there real sweet like..:-) Would an 866 be capable to push 525hp out of it??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AZB755V8 Posted November 8, 2016 Share Posted November 8, 2016 7 minutes ago, dave41855 said: Well kids, we pulled the old girl into the shop and started the tear-down. After we got the hood off and sat back enjoying a good hot cup of coffee, we both started to chuckle. He says "I know where there is a good ENDT866 that would fit in there real sweet like..:-) Would an 866 be capable to push 525hp out of it??? The short of it NO. A 865/866 is good for maybe 425hp and that is pushing it. No intercooler but it could be plumbed in to get extra hp with bigger turbo but at the cost of reliability. No parts for those engines, an E9 would be a safer bet. I like both V8's and ,have both running in trucks, but parts and having someone around that know how to work on them is getting harder and harder to find along with parts. It would be really cool to do but not for a work truck. If you do your own work... Maybe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave41855 Posted November 8, 2016 Author Share Posted November 8, 2016 Oh well AZB755V8, it was a thought!! Anyway, will stick to what the original is. Meanwhile, back in the oilpan, here's what greeted us after we dropped it!! Nice little mess isn't it! Once we get the pistons out of it and get it fully stripped, we'll be able to tell if the cylinder walls are scored or not and then we'll know just how bad this really is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mowerman Posted November 13, 2016 Share Posted November 13, 2016 Oooooooohhh brother get rid of it start o er with another engine lol bob Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gearhead204 Posted November 14, 2016 Share Posted November 14, 2016 that sucks...........nothing money wont fix 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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