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    What Models Were Built @ Hayward?


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    #1 OFFLINE   Doug Maney

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    Posted 18 February 2006 - 01:21 PM

    This question has been raised several times, lets get to the bottom of it!
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    The Hayward, California :mack1: plant was opened in January 1966.
    They started with the FL and in 1967 constructed the RL model. These models featured aluminum components mounted on aluminum frame rails. FS and RS models were introduced in 1967, these featured steel frame rails with similar components to the L versions. In 1974 The Hayward plant added the W "Cruiseliner" model to its lineup. These were built both in Hayward and ultimately in the Macungie Assembly Facility. In 1978 when the RW "Superliner" was introduced, they were built both in Hayward and Macungie. The serial number plate on the door will specify Mack Western, Hayward, CA. The :mack1: Western plant closed in 1980 pulling the assembly back to Pennsylvania.

    Did :mack1: assemble any other models in Hayward?

    Does anyone have any interesting tales pertaining to the Hayward plant or their :mack1: Western products?
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    #2 OFFLINE   Superdog

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    Posted 18 February 2006 - 05:37 PM

    I've never heard of any other models being built at Hayward,Doug.The Cruiseliner was available as a WL or WS,and the Superliner was available as a RWL or RWS.When it was introduced,the dropped the RL/RS700 models and badged the RL/RS600 as the Valueliner.I don't believe the Superliner was ever built in Macungie prior to Hayward closing.I believe it was '81 when they closed.Then all 3 were built in Macungie until those models were discontinued.
    My Grandpa used to pick up new trucks for our local dealer and I went with him to Hayward in '81.We piggybacked home 3 Cruiseliners and a Valueliner.The trucks there waiting to be picked up were really something to see,chrome and polished aluminum and fancy paint jobs.When I went with him to Allentown in '76,all you saw was green,red or white and everything had spoke wheels.We got a full blown tour on that trip,something I'll never forget.They were still building the M series off hiway trucks then,got to tour the R&D facility and test grounds,it was really something.

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    Posted 18 February 2006 - 10:05 PM

    I have got to ask this,

    How positive are you that the Cruiseliner came out on the market in 1974? I don't believe I have ever seen a 1974 Cruiseliner. As far as my memory serves me, the Cruiseliner came out in 1976.

    #4 OFFLINE   Lmackattack

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    Posted 18 February 2006 - 10:59 PM

    Great topic Doug :thumb:
    I think all models built there were mentioned so far but I have another question..were some of the later B models and L models (altho not built in hayward) directed to the "western" owers. I thought I saw an item for B models on ebay a few years back with "western" on the title page.. could be wrong? wish I could find a pic of it again.

    also how common were the RS600s tractors (not the later valuliners)back in there day? I tend to find alot more RS700s and Valuliners in for sale ads

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    Posted 18 February 2006 - 11:29 PM

    I have got to ask this,

    How positive are you that the Cruiseliner came out on the market in 1974? I don't believe I have ever seen a 1974 Cruiseliner. As far as my memory serves me, the Cruiseliner came out in 1976.

    The Cruiseliner was introduced in November 1974.I've never seen one titled as a '74 but have known of many '75's.

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    Posted 19 February 2006 - 12:39 AM

    I was thinkin' my B said "Western" on the tag!!!??? I'd have to go out and check the tag, but it's far too cold here tonite to venture out to the shop for a check!! +2*F right now and on the way to around -5*F I guess! Not as cold as up in WI. though. I heard -26*F right now on the radio a few minutes ago! BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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    #7 OFFLINE   Doug Maney

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    Posted 19 February 2006 - 01:23 PM

    The Cruiseliner was introduced in November 1974.I've never seen one titled as a '74 but have known of many '75's.


    Right on! The Cruiseliner was introduced as a new model in 1975. I wasn't sure exactly what month the Cruiseliner was actually opened up to the public. I was confident that with all new vehicles the production starts approximately a year before the first ones are sold. Prototypes are run down the line to identify problems with the builds and hopefully eliminate them before the demand hits. I guess the Cruiseliner demand never really hit!



    This gives me another idea for a post topic! Doug
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    Posted 19 February 2006 - 01:39 PM

    As far as older western market aimed :mack1: trucks, yes there was the Great Western Series! The Great Western models came about with the pending introduction of the G model. The G was the aluminum cabover aimed directly at capturing :mack1: a spot in fleets dominated by off brand trucks. The goal was to offer a :mack1: chassis with off brand engines and components similar to what the generic truck assemblers were offering. The Great Western models included B's and G's. As far as I know the s/n tag does not specify "Great Western", at least none of mine do. They used the regular tag for all of my G's.

    Earlier models directed at the western market were of course the LT and the W-71. I don't think they had any sort of descriptive title associated with their attempt at trying to cut into left coast trucking.
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    Posted 19 February 2006 - 09:14 PM

    The G model and Cruiseliner look similar- did they reuse some of the G model design and tooling to build the Cruiseliner?

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    Posted 19 February 2006 - 09:28 PM

    No they didn't recycle any G model stuff, they talked about it! I spoke with an engineer that worked for Mack at the time, they considered reusing some of the items from the G but it didn't prove to be worthwhile.


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    Posted 19 February 2006 - 10:00 PM

    what was the issue between the G model mack and KW claiming that it looked to simmilar to there cabover?

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    Posted 19 February 2006 - 11:01 PM

    Sounds to me like a new topic!! :chili:
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