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    #1 OFFLINE   B67 BullDog

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    Posted 07 March 2012 - 12:16 AM

    For you fire wackers...
    http://capecodfd.com...ial/Macks01.htm

    #2 OFFLINE   Olivetroad

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    Posted 07 March 2012 - 10:24 PM

    Great photos - Thanks for posting!

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    Posted 08 March 2012 - 06:56 AM

    Great collection.
    When you look at those pictures and think of all the various other applications where Macks are used, It really puts in perspective the contribution Mack has made to society.

    The first section I went to was the B's to see an open top model. One of the towns I grew up in was Westbury, Long Island so it was nice to see pictures of one from Baldwin, LI which is only a few miles from Westbury.

    FDNY had at least F model tandem axle tractor. I hope I can find a pic of it.

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    #4 OFFLINE   Green Dash

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    Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:02 AM

    Well that was easy.

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    I found the picture here;

    http://www.fireengines.net/sp/
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    #5 OFFLINE   Olivetroad

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    Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:15 AM

    Is that a bulldog on the front of the trailer towards the bottom? Classy!

    #6 OFFLINE   Green Dash

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    Posted 08 March 2012 - 07:32 AM

    Is that a bulldog on the front of the trailer towards the bottom? Classy!


    Didn't notice that-it sure is!

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    #7 OFFLINE   Timothy Maikshilo

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    Posted 08 March 2012 - 08:23 AM

    Is that a water canon on the F model? If so it is huge, would like to know how many GPM that would do.

    #8 OFFLINE   B67 BullDog

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    Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:17 AM

    Is that a water canon on the F model? If so it is huge, would like to know how many GPM that would do.

    Thats a serious canon for sure

    #9 OFFLINE   j hancock

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    Posted 08 March 2012 - 11:38 AM

    IIRC Mack built the pump trailer to go with the canon on the F model.

    Also, I think there was another Mack built trailer and F model to be a hose tender or support vehicle of some sort.

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    #10 OFFLINE   fxfymn

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    Posted 08 March 2012 - 02:21 PM

    The F model is the pumper portion of FDNY's Super Pumper System which consisted of the pump unit, the super tender, and three satelite units.

    The design was done by a naval architect and was meant to emulate a land based fire boat. The pump and super tender did not work out great, but the satelite units proved valuable enough that they kept them in use.

    Here is an excellent article on the system http://www.fireengin.../sp/history.htm

    #11 OFFLINE   B67 BullDog

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    Posted 08 March 2012 - 06:28 PM

    The F model is the pumper portion of FDNY's Super Pumper System which consisted of the pump unit, the super tender, and three satelite units.

    The design was done by a naval architect and was meant to emulate a land based fire boat. The pump and super tender did not work out great, but the satelite units proved valuable enough that they kept them in use.

    Here is an excellent article on the system http://www.fireengin.../sp/history.htm

    Thats impressive. Id like to see that operation in full swing.

    #12 OFFLINE   Olivetroad

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    Posted 08 March 2012 - 10:37 PM

    The F model is the pumper portion of FDNY's Super Pumper System which consisted of the pump unit, the super tender, and three satelite units. The design was done by a naval architect and was meant to emulate a land based fire boat. The pump and super tender did not work out great, but the satelite units proved valuable enough that they kept them in use. Here is an excellent article on the system http://www.fireengin.../sp/history.htm


    That was a very interesting article - I had heard about it, in fact I think I remember a news story about it in the 80's. Why did they stop using it and why did the satelite units work longer?

    #13 OFFLINE   bulldogboy

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    Posted 10 March 2012 - 09:18 PM

    Is that a water canon on the F model? If so it is huge, would like to know how many GPM that would do.


    The Superpumper was rated at 8800 GPM at 350 PSI or 4400 GPM at 700 PSI. However, in actuality the Superpumper was limited by
    the size of the water mains supplying it. The monitors (water cannons) on the satellites were rated at 4000 GPM so I would guess that the
    Tender monitor would be similar.

    There is a book, "The F.D.N.Y. Super Pumper System" by John A. Calderone that gives an in depth story of the Super Pumper. I have heard
    that this book is in print again.


    That was a very interesting article - I had heard about it, in fact I think I remember a news story about it in the 80's. Why did they stop using it and why did the satelite units work longer?


    Like the rest of us the Superpumper got old and required a lot of maintenance. In practice the FDNY found that the satellites did the bulk of the work, were more manuverable, and more
    effective. The satellites live on as a legacy of the Super Pumper system. Too bad the pumper and tender did not end up in the FDNY museum.


    bulldogboy

    Edited by bulldogboy, 10 March 2012 - 09:19 PM.


    #14 ONLINE   1958 F.W.D.

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    Posted 11 March 2012 - 10:35 AM

    Too bad the pumper and tender did not end up in the FDNY museum.


    The Super Tender is owned by a gentleman in Northern California. It is fully restored and makes regular appearances at Fire Musters and Parades. The Pumper is owned by a gentleman in Michigan somewhere, who has a private fire museum. I have seen pictures of it- the tractor and trailer underwent a cosmetic-only restoration, and from what I could tell in the pictures that I have seen not a very good one. I understand the engine in the tractor is blown. The engine in the trailer (IIRC a 24 cylinder Napier-Deltic) would obviously require quite a substantial amount of money to overhaul. I have also heard that the gentlman who owns it has it inside a newer pole barn, to keep it out of the elements which is good, but unfortunately he does not have much money.

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    #15 OFFLINE   albert

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    Posted 11 March 2012 - 09:21 PM

    my son and I now own one of the'L' model mack pumpers featured in the cape cod group ,photos of it on pages 6,7,8 it was lettered a TUNBRIDGE , it was also in the line up of several 'L's in a row, most photos where taken in the late 90's, we purchased the truck in 2009 and did a off frame restoration, just got it back on the road in dec 2011, readying for the parade and muster circuit now.

    #16 OFFLINE   Timothy Maikshilo

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    Posted 12 March 2012 - 05:33 AM

    Albert,
    sounds like a great project. Do you have any photo's of the restoration?

    #17 ONLINE   Superdog

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    Posted 12 March 2012 - 11:10 AM

    Well that was easy.

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    I found the picture here;

    http://www.fireengines.net/sp/

    Somebody correct me if I'm wrong,but I was told these F model tractors had 864 V8's with Allison automatics.

    #18 OFFLINE   Green Dash

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    Posted 12 March 2012 - 01:34 PM

    Yes, the specs are in the link that fxfymn posted.

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    #19 OFFLINE   fdnymackcf

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    Posted 30 March 2012 - 08:09 PM

    On a sad note, the 3 Satellite C model Macks were sent out to Long Island to a company called ComCoach, which replaced the whole body with a plastic cab and body, IIRC. I cannot find the pictures of the before and after, but it was sickening to see what was done to those 3 rigs.
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    Posted 07 April 2012 - 12:57 AM

    The Super Tender has retired to Hemet, California. It is safe in our barn. The model of the tender is so perfect that they put the patches in the sheet metal doors I added in the early 90's.




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