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    Jake And Valve Adjustment



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    #1 OFFLINE   Mild Thunder

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    Posted 13 October 2009 - 08:59 PM

    I have a 1998 CH613. I bought the truck a few years back. Bought it with 570k miles, and now it has about 690k. Runs very well. Power is good. Pulls 32lbs of boost. Engine is labeled 355-380HP, but previous owner says he had it turned into a 427HP?? Is that possible? I drove a stock 2000 year 355-380, and it felt like a slug compared to mine. That truck empty felt like mine loaded.

    Anyhow, I noticed my jake doesnt seem to be strong at all. it engages ok, but slowing/stopping power is minimal, unlike the other truck. I have not had the engine touched since i bought it. Someone told me i should have the valves adjusted. Is this the cause of a weak jake?? Thanks!

    #2 OFFLINE   Truck Company 1

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    Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:15 PM

    The Jake might need a tune up kit. I'm not sure what is involved or how much it is but after a while they wear.

    #3 OFFLINE   jzack

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    Posted 13 October 2009 - 09:28 PM

    It wouldn't hurt to have the valves done. Did mine at 500k and made a big difference in power and mileage. Should help the Jake too. BTW, I wouldn't doubt the previous owner, 32PSI boost is about right for a 427HP.

    #4 OFFLINE   Packer82935

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    Posted 13 October 2009 - 10:32 PM

    A $100.00 and an hour should tune up your Jake.

    While your at it, adjust both the valves and the Jakes.

    A Rebuild kit is just some pistons and 'O' rings.

    You'll need a set of valve cover gaskets and some 'O' ring lube to finish the job.

    AND DON"T DROP ANY OF THOSE TINY PARTS DOWN IN THE ENGINE!!!!!! LMAO

    It will happen!!

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    #5 OFFLINE   tech_j

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    Posted 13 October 2009 - 11:52 PM

    Not sure how much experience you've had with E7/E-Tech engines and Jakes, but you will NEVER feel the same stopping power as an ASET with Powerleash or MP series with VCB. In any case, if you do decide to run the overhead yourself, be sure to adjust the brake loosely at .017". When I say loosely, only MINIMAL drag is required. Otherwise you could end up with a broken guide pin and possibly replacing a head.
    Torque wrench? Can I put an air hose on it??

    #6 OFFLINE   Mild Thunder

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    Posted 14 October 2009 - 04:31 AM

    Is this something I should just let the Mack dealer do?? Have them adjust valves and rebuild jake? About how many hours labor would it cost? Im only a few miles from the dealer but dealer prices scare me sometimes, but so does the idea of screwig up my motor trying to save a few bucks! lol

    #7 OFFLINE   Gambi80

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    Posted 14 October 2009 - 04:23 PM

    Is this something I should just let the Mack dealer do?? Have them adjust valves and rebuild jake? About how many hours labor would it cost? Im only a few miles from the dealer but dealer prices scare me sometimes, but so does the idea of screwig up my motor trying to save a few bucks! lol


    I had mine done a year ago...valves adjusted and jake. They replaced the solenoids, adjusted the valves and had to replace a worn out set screw thingermajigger...around $450 altogether. The biggest deal was finding the time, as the truck has to sit almost over-night to allow the motor to cool to 'room' temperature.

    And tech_j is right...my engine brake (the "stealth" brake) is a tiny step above worthless. I think they call it stealth because you don't even know it's on.
    Ever wonder how a blind person knows when to stop wiping?

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    #8 OFFLINE   Double L

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    Posted 02 December 2009 - 11:35 AM

    Just out of a curiosity can you install a pac brake on Mack engines?




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